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THE following is a reproduced transcript of an interview that the Patriotic Front leader Michael Sata recently had with some international media organisation where he addressed  more chinese issues than the  hotly debated gay rights issues.

QUESTION 1: If you win the elections, will you change anything in relation to policy towards what the current Government stands for with China?

SATA: First of all change is a very strong word. Is there anything to change? Change is a very strong word. You change things which exist but what is there to change?

If there are laws and they are not obeyed and you tell people to obey the laws, that is not change.

If The Chinese or any other investor comes to Zambia they should obey the local laws just like if i go to China or Denmark I should obey the local laws of the Chinese or Danish. There should be no two laws, one for Chinese and one for other investors.

QUESTION 2: Can you give an example of that?

SATA: Well, the example I can give you is the Chinese bring excessive labourers, unskilled people, which is not the case with other Western investors.
We want investment to benefit Zambians not investment to benefit China.

China, they are bringing their capital, they are bringing their technology to come and exploit what is in Zambia and provide employment and training to Zambian people.
That is cardinal and key that is not change, we have to implement it.

QUESTION 3: We went to the opening of the huge large stadium for a ground-breaking ceremony. What do you think of these gifts and the roads they are building?

SATA: Listen, first of all, when you are talking about the roads you are not young enough, the Chinese are not giving us a gift.

There has been a stadium there that is where we celebrated our Independence 47 years ago.

If you are refurbishing something that is not a gift. How much money are they getting from that?

How many Chinese are going to be employed and how much money are they going to externalise.

Roads are impassable going to the township and so what are you talking about? Independence Stadium has always been there, it is not a new programme.

QUESTION 4: Why do you think the Chinese are investing so heavily specifically in Zambia?

SATA: Zambia is providing an opportunity to all those investors including the Chinese because if you take the Chinese and Australians, First Quantum Minerals, Equinox and Indians Australians have invested a lot more than the Chinese, so you cannot say that they have invested heavily. So if you say they are investing it does not arise.

QUESTION 5: Could you explain to me how the development has been here in Zambia because I have gone to the streets and seen changes all-over?

SATA: Am not seeing it. I am a Zambian. Development means something new. I am not seeing anything new.

QUESTION 6: But I have seen a lot of Chinese?

SATA: Chinese have come to seek refuge. That is not change; change is to see something which has never existed.

This year Zambia is 47 years of Independence, any human being who is 47 years has grand children.

If you look at all these buildings they are buildings which were left by Western countries. I have not seen any single Chinese building, show me one.

QUESTION 7: What is the difference between the Chinese investment in mines and Western engagements in Zambia?

SATA:. You are going to the Copperbelt and all you will find there is what was developed by the Western. Nothing has been developed by the Chinese.

The Chinese have just come to sit in comfort. There isn’t anything the Chinese have developed.

And the Chinese they have come in the country at a time when Frederick Chiluba, scrapped all foreign exchange regulations, they export everything what they leave is environmental deterioration.

We don’t see anything, the little money which comes is to pay the Chinese and probably wages but the Western, everything they sold came back to Zambia.

QUESTION 8: If you win the elections what would you do towards the Chinese?

SATA: I have already answered I am not talking about Chinese. Good things must be for Zambians they have better facilities than we have, they don’t go to our hospitals.

What we want is we wanted good things for Zambians. The Chinese are very welcome, everybody is very welcome but they must obey the laws of this country.

If they don’t obey the laws of this country the laws themselves will deal with them

QUESTION 9: What do you mean they don’t obey the laws of this country? Can you give me an example?

SATA: All-over the world if I come to your country, I drive in a wrong direction they will sort me out.

If I come to your country, I commit a nuisance they will sort me out. These laws are standard and followed all over.

QUESTION 10: Can you give me an example of how Chinese here have not obeyed the laws of the Country?

SATA: First of all when you are asking for an example, I told you in my preamble that there is a law which says bring your investment and your technology and a limited number of labourers, it doesn’t say go and bring the whole China.

There is a law, there is a labour law which says bring your money, you bring your technology and the Investment Act specifies that as to how many people you can bring and the Ministry of Labour specifies.

QUESTION 11: You have a previous connection to Taiwan am I right?

SATA: Taiwan is China isn’t it? Taiwan is a Chinese organisation who rebelled against their mainland because they did not agree with their democratic principles.

They are all Chinese, now you can fly from Beijing to Taipei. They are the same people, they speak the same language, they write the same way but they only differed because they did not agree with that commandist democracy.

QUESTION 12: But did the Taiwanese give you any money to run your campaign in 2006?

SATA: First of all when I come to see you, I don’t need money what I need is cooperation in preparation when we are in Government because the Taiwanese are people who took swamps and turned them.

Today you can go and see they are very attractive cities. If you look at South Korea they went to a place which was swamps today they changed that thing and those are the people who we developing countries require to come and help us to develop this country.

It is not the money campaigning because they give money I chew, I have cars, but because what we need is prepare ourselves to be like people who have struggled to be where they are.

Today we get more money from Nordic countries than from bigger countries and we are still praying bigger countries instead of recognising and appreciating what Nordic countries are doing.

I was once minister of Labour, Health, minister of Local Government and I saw the contribution of Nordic countries and very little you get from whoever is in Government.

China come they just break one soil and they say oh Chinese have given us a stadium, that stadium has been there for 47 years. That is election propaganda.

QUESTION 13: It seems to me that the Chinese are trying to get some goodwill among the Zambian people?

SATA: Not among the Zambian people, the Chinese are very crafty. I know the Chinese very well.

The Chinese would like to be very close to the Government of the day. The Chinese would like to be very close to the party in Government that is why the Chinese are doing everything they can to MMD and once the Chinese see there is a wind of change you find Chinese will be very different.

The Chinese fought in this country or in Africa during the cold war. We knew very little about China during the cold war.

We knew very little about China, we knew Russia. When we are talking of communism we are talking of Russia.

The Chinese were just a small component within that so you find at the moment the party and the Government are exploiting the Chinese because they don’t have the language to people but exploit them by saying we are breaking the stone for an Independence Stadium.

Now if you break the stone today when are people going to play football in the stadium?

You don’t break a stone today and tomorrow people start playing football.

QUESTION 14: What about the recent incident of Collum Mine where 11 Zambian workers were shot at by Chinese mine bosses, I am sure you have also heard about this incident, what is your reaction when something like this happens?

SATA: Well what I am trying to say is I would like to appeal to all investors and all the people in Zambia to exercise maximum tolerance especially when playing with firearms because firearm does not only maim, they kill, that is why I am talking about the law.

The law should not discriminate; the law should deal with the law breaker in the same way it would deal with any other law breaker.

That was a very unfortunate incidence. For them to resort to that, the differences must have been much higher than what our ears and eyes can see.

QUESTION 15: Do you have any predictions for the future about the China-Zambia relationship?

SATA: What I am trying to say is that Zambia needs warm predictable relationships.
Denmark should not only help us one way track, Denmark should also benefit because Zambia has certain things which Denmark hasn’t got.

Denmark has a technology which Zambia hasn’t got so it is not only the Chinese, the Indians or that.

What we need is to respect each others’ sovereignty and integrity, exchange ideas and on that basis, we can develop much faster than we are today, without being selective. We can develop much faster.

QUESTION 16: So you wouldn’t make some new rules or some new conditions or some new restrictions regarding the relationship with the Chinese?

SATA: The point is the laws have already made restrictions. Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen, the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians.

And the laws of Zambia have provided restrictions and when you go all-over the world, there is not any single country which has not provided restrictions for those things, those are cheap propaganda, the laws are there what we need is to implement the laws.

QUESTION 17: So now do think the current Government is doing their job?

SATA: The current Government is so corrupt, when you are corrupt you can’t do anything right.

When you are corrupt you can’t do anything right because in English which you and I have learnt, he who pays the piper plays the tune, that is the problem of corruption because for example in Zambia today, we have ZNBC, we have Zambia Daily Mail, we have Times of Zambia, we have young men of integrity, the good Journalists who would even be better than Journalists of The Post or other independent newspapers.

But when you have a lope sided Government policy the young men and women there, they just watch.

For example when Africa got independence, Africans did not have their own newspaper, it is the BBC and your European broadcasting and newspapers which criticised the settlers, the colonial government here which made those people in German and Britain and everywhere to see but at the moment anybody who wants to be independent is dismissed.

You are dismissing a young reporter and leaving somebody who is Like Zambia Daily Mail, the person who is there is old and on a contract. Those are the difficulties.
If you want development, when I was governor in UNIP days we were so scared of Times of Zambia, Zambia Daily Mail and ZNBC because they revealed our weaknesses and we worked.

When there was cholera by that time, there was no private media, when there was cholera, it was Times of Zambia and Zambia Daily Mail, and ZNBC who revealed about those things but now you want them to be singing praises for Rupiah Banda, singing praises for George Kunda, it would be very difficult for them to come and change and be what they have been.

QUESTION 18: Do you think there is any corruption going on between Chinese and the Government?

SATA: Plenty of it because for example I will give you a very simple example.
The man who was with Rupiah Banda yesterday at the stadium is vice prime minister.

How can a vice prime minister be with the State president? Under the International Protocol, if it was a Chinese State president then our local president should go there.

If that man is vice prime minister he was supposed to be with George Kunda but if he goes with George Kunda, Rupiah Banda is not very sure how much the China man is going to give George Kunda so he has to go with him himself.

You see things we are doing in Zambia in particular are things which are not going on in Europe.

You find here in Zambia a president meeting a second class civil servant, here in Zambia.

And when our president travels abroad he is met by deputy minister now those are things which we have to change, we might be poor but we are human beings, we might be poor, we have the honour.

QUESTION 19: Do you see the Chinese as some new colonisers who want take what they want and then leave?

SATA: No. The Chinese you have to bear in mind, the population of China. If Zambia had the same population as China, the current Government would not know what to do with it but the Chinese they know they have the largest country they have the largest population and they have to provide social services for their people and if they have to provide social services for their people they have to be extremely aggressive economically.

That is why you find that the Chinese have sprung out all over the World to protect their environment at home.

Sometimes they work under very difficult conditions and when they work under very difficult conditions that is why wherever they go they have the Bank of China so that all the Chinese will put money in the Bank of China so that that money can help the Chinese people and I hope one day Africa will do the same.

They come here they are not looking for luxuries. There will be 60 people in room like this one but what they want is that all the Chinese must benefit and that is what we the PF stands for, to fight for those who have no voice, to fight for those who cannot stand.

QUESTION 20: Do you think you have a chance of winning the next elections?

SATA: We have always been winning the elections but the point is when there is starvation, when there is poverty you see the way we run elections in Africa is different with the way you run elections in Denmark.

In Africa the dull person wins and the intelligent one loses because people running ECZ are poor, people running the office of the president are also poor and have nowhere to run to. So those are the difficulties.
Thank You

editor
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148 COMMENTS

  1. When you start from the begining,you realise that SATA was saying that thez no change to make but to implement the laws.That he mention in connection with the Chinese.So its clear he even started with the words that some people are saying I want to bring back…He goes further to say that cheap propaganda.Surely its clear the man didnt mean what people are claiming.VIVA SATA.

  3. SATA: The point is the laws have already made restrictions. Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen, the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians.
    NO WONDER OTHERS ARE SAYING THAT SATA SUPPORTS GAYS AND LESBIANS, IT IS BECAUSE OF THE WAY HE PUT HIS POINT. ZAMBIAN LAWS DO NOT RECOGNISE GAYS AND LESBIANS. THE OLD MAN MADE AN ERROR IN THE WAY HE PUT HIS POINT.

  4. Let the doubting thomases read for themselves. What more do you need as proof. He said it . Let him just apologise to voters. But zambians ll never be cheated. His down fall is more disasterous. May satana soul rest in peace.

  6. Some time it is difficult to understand how people decide to become dull just to discredit someone. When one says the law recognise homosexuality, it does not mean the law legalises it. It simply means the law provides for what should happen to one who practises that, whether they must be praised or punished. Sata simply meant there was no need for further legislation because the current (existing) law already recognise this as a felony or a crime, whatever lawyers call it. All it needs is implementation by law enforcing agents on perpetrators.

  7. “Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen, the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians”.

    Now remove the comma between LISTEN and THE

    The point is the laws have already made restrictions “Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians”.

    Sata has Zambia at heart. When did HH or RB talk about Zambia like Sata did? Trips, trips, trips. Gratuity, gratuity, gratuity that is all Banda dreams about. How he will make money for himself period.

  8. What change does he always talk about?? at the same time he say there no change to make..is this the kind of president Zambians want?? Zambians are used to suffering…..

  9. Well.things have become clearer ,questions have been answered.So the MMD and their sponsored NGO’s were trying to alarm the situation,atase!! When somebody says “…..people think I WANT TO BRING GAY AND LESBIAN RIGHTS WHEN I TALK TO YOU….”i believe any sober adult who did basic english comprehension will tell you that this man does not support homosexuality.He said there are laws which recognises that…meaning that there’s a UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS which entitles a human being a choice of religion,opinion,association etc as long as they dont infringe on a neighbours freedom-which our government subscribes to.Infact they have made him more popular,because people now understand his stance on the chinese.MMD are illiterates,nowander they only win in villages.

  10. what i have got from that interview is that Sata has no progressive plan or manifesto for Zambia…

    Reason i say that is because he repeatedly mentions laws are there and just need to be implemented.. he is so relaxed about it its scary… he thinks he will come into power and just implement the laws

    THATS HIS PLAN ????:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?:-?

  12. 3. Kashimani The laws recognise gays and have restrictions (ways of dealing with them). Just as there are laws to deal with thieves, does not mean one supports theft, but recognises that there are dishonest elements in society and the laws must be implemented

  13. #10, so you want him to come and make new laws when you have not even implemented or strengthen the current laws? So you want a President who does not respect the laws?

  14. If any man has ears, let him listern to Sata’s wisdom in this interview. If you have eyes, read for your self. VIVA Sata! This interview was genious.

  17. God shud forgive MMD and ZNBC for lying to the Zambian pipo. ‘Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do’ Says SATA

  18. Some people are dull. They are really failing to fully comprehend what SATA said. I think we need Lawyers on LT to interpret the all transcript.

    We will never be mislead by fools on MMD-Broadcasting Services, MMD Times of Zambia and MM Daily Paper.

  19. @10 chola
    Can you please use your head for once please…is that not progressive when somebody says rules are to be implemented and followed?when somebody says local people should benefit more,to you thats not progress,when somebody says no unskilled labourers from china….,in your heard thats not progress.Maybe you are just dull such tat you dont know what progress means.Interesting o know how others think.. mwe.

  20. This is rubish thinking, the man has hatred for china. this can be seen from his talk. Abashi sata, abashi gayism….!!

  22. #20, so if you a guest in bungalow, or your mansion and they fail to follow your house rules, what do you do? If you insist on your set rules, is that hatred? Where does Mr Sata say I hate Chinese? Are you basing your rants on the above article or may be it is you who hates Mr Sata?

  23. VIVA Sata Viva PF. The man drove the point straight. MMD just picked the smoke from the fire.The point is he hammered MMD and that is why they picked the petty issue of gays. Thanks LT for the artical. Change is here to stay. MMD ZWA.

  26. Mr Sata: “Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back gays and sebians, I mean the lesbians, and I tell them that listen, the laws of Zambia recognise(s) the gays. The laws of Zambia recognise(s) the lesbians.

    And the Laws of Zambia have provided restrictions and when you go all over the world, there isn’t any single country which has not provided restrictions for those things. But those are cheap propaganda. The laws are already there what we need is to implement the laws.”

  29. “Denmark should not only help us one way track, Denmark should also benefit
    The laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians.
    the laws are there what we need is to implement the laws” This is wat we have been told by MMD and ZNBC

  30. I am not happy with our campaign team,we seem not to have a clear campaign strategy,i say so bcoz we are wasting alot of time on SATA at the expense of selling RB.If we are not careful,SATA will rule.He is still in a PACT with so many Zambians and the biggest and oldest church,the catholic.The catholic is a force to reckon with.despite all the gay allegations,he managed to pull crowds in madevu.its time to campaign and not to focus much on homo rights.

  31. #12 I did not say Sata supports gays, it is the way he put his point. When we recognise someone or something, it is a positive statement. It does not mean gays and lesbians are restricted. What you have written is what he wanted to say, but the meaning of his words is something else. If you are in a meeting and you say ” I recognise of the presence of Mr and Mrs so and so” what do we mean? There is no negative connotation in that. May be in law it means something what you said. Sata made a grammatical error in that statement to my understanding, not a mistake, get me right.

  32. #20 you are s.t.u.p.i.d you mean you can’t see the harm these people are doing? they shot people, they sell at soweto market, they crowd in small houses in their numbers, they bring cheap labour from china etc

  35. And the “TAFLONE” MCS has scored again!!

    I am not really a fan of Sata, but the lies from MMD and its mouth-piece media are truly nauseating. It is amazing to see even people (such as HH) we thought are above this kind of pettiness have, shamefully, joined the choir for misinformation. How sad!!!

    For anyone who reads this interview and say Sata wants gay-ism should really their head examined. Even propaganda has its limits. The smear campaign is becoming criminal now. We can hate the man for all his other faults, but please, to misconstrued this statement into something other than the simple fact Sata was trying to state concerning Gay and Lesbian laws (Sodomy Laws, as the Zambian penal code calls them) in this country is really pathetic, to say the least!!

  36. VERY WISE INTERVIEW. I RECOMMEND MR. SATA FOR IT. ZNBC YOU CONTINUE ADVERTISING FOR THE MAN YOU WILL BE SHOCKED. JUST YESTERDAY SOME 7 YOUNG MEN WHERE ASKING ME HOW BAD MR. SATA WAS SINCE ZNBC IS TALKING ILL ABOUT HIM. BUT ONE SAID NO HE IS NOT BAD BUT THEY ARE AFRAID OF HIM BECAUSE HE IS NOT THE ONLY OPPOSITION CANDIDATE WHO WILL STAND. MORE CANDIDATES WILL STAND AND THEY ARE ALL NOT CLEAN BUT WHY TARGET THIS MAN ONLY? I SAID SO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER YOU GUYS. THESE ARE NEW VOTERS FOR THIS YEAR. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES THINKING IN THE SAME LINE THERE ARE MANY YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR THE FIRST TIME. SO WORK UP MMD AND STOP YOUR PROPAGANDA.

  37. #31 you can recognize something negative.

    rec·og·nize/?rekig?n?z/Verb
    1. Identify (someone or something) from having encountered them before; know again:
    2. Identify from knowledge of appearance or character.
    Character can be negative or positive depending one perceives it.

  38. THIS OLD MAN IS NOT SAYING ANYTHING AT ALL.
    HOW DO YOU SUPPORT SOMEONE THAT JUST TWISTS WORDS AND ENDS UP WHERE HE BEGAN WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING TANGIBLE.
    NO WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THE LAWS ARE THERE, WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THE CHINESE ARE THERE, WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THERE IS NOTHING NEW, WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS THE STADIUM WAS THERE.
    THIS MAN ISN’T SAYING WHAT HE WOULD HAVE DONE BETTER OR WHETHER HE WOULD HAVE CHOSEN TO BUILD A STADIUM SOMEWHERE ELSE OR BUILD A HOSPITAL BECAUSE HE KNOWS OTHER STADIUMS ARE BEING BUILT AND HOSPITALS ARE BEING COMPLETED AND ROADS ARE BEING COMMISSIONED.
    WHAT WE ARE SAYING IS YOU DONT START PLAYING FOOTBALL TOMORROW
    OH PLEASE WITH THE ACT OLD MAN, GO TO YOUR FARM, SHOULD WE CONTINUE AS A COUNTRY WITH THESE OLD TRICKS????

  39. This is very clear even to a lay man like me. He says the laws of Zambia and the world all over has provided restrictions for those things(Gay and Lesbians) we just need to implement them. What else do you want him to say? Cheap MMD propaganda as he even puts it.

  40. Verb 1. recognise – show approval or appreciation of; “My work is not recognized by anybody!”; “The best student was recognized by the Dean”
    recognize 2.recognise – grant credentials to; “The Regents officially recognized the new educational institution”; “recognize an academic degree” 3.recognise – detect with the senses; “The fleeing convicts were picked out of the darkness by the watchful prison guards”; “I can’t make out the faces in this photograph. 4. recognise – express greetings upon meeting someone 5. recognise – express obligation.6 recognise – accept (someone) to be what is claimed or accept his power and authority; “The Crown Prince was acknowledged as the true heir to the throne”; “We do not recognize your gods”

  41. WHAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN RECEIVING MONEY FROM TAIWAN FOR CAMPAIGNS AND TALKING OF SWAMPS IN KOREA?? NO WE DIDN’T COME TO ASK FOR DANISH MONEY, BUT YOU HAVE BEEN RECEIVING IT. AND NOW YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO REFUSE THE GAY ALLEGATIONS ALL BECAUSE THESE ARE YOUR SPONSORS!! IF YOU REFUSE THEY WILL KNOW WHICH COBRA YOU ARE, IF YOU STAY QUIET THE STUPID VUVUZELAS WILL CONTINUE SAYING ON YOUR BEHALF THAT YOU ARE AGAINST GAYS.
    WE ALREADY KNOW IT IS GUY SCOTT THAT WANTS TO COME OUT OF THE CLOSET, WE HAVE SEEN HOW HIM AND LUBINDA CARRY ON

  42. Our future president Mr. Sichale Mata has finally started thinking logically. I think we should have debates for all the contesting presidents and see who makes much sense. VIVA PF, VIVA Bashikulu Sata

  43. After reading this entire interview, only a pathological liar, a dimwit or an immoral scoundrel would claim that Sata was championing gay/lesbian rights.

  44. SATA PLEASE TELL US YOUR DEVELOPMENTAL PROGRAM….WHAT IMPLEMENTATION OF LAWS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THE SAMES LAWS YOU FAILD TO IMPLEMENT WHEN YOU WERE IN GRZ?? PLEASE STOP WAISTING OUR TIME, TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT AND NOT THE CHINESE. WILL ZAMBIANS EAT THE CHINESE???

  45. From this transcript, Sata does not seem to be in support of a few individuals with different sexual orientation but he just had to reiterate that they laws already in existance. Its only some sheepish Zambians who can think differently. It is always important to get facts first. So who is cheating, HH or Sata?

  46. As I am about to do blogger do the same, first I shall read the article and comment as shall permit my analysis hahahahaha.

  47. Hello Zambia, many people need to go to School bane. Tatuyandi ma LIES on national television. Come on guys lets just agree that the man- MCS has beaten you at your game

  48. This was very painful to read. Is this the man they say has a degree? Eeesh! I am going to look for somewhere to hide from the embarrasment when he goes to UN. He speaks with anger and he is attacking the person who is asking questions as though the interviewer is the problem.

  49. Where is the gay issue? Looks like Sata was called to be interviewed about the Chinese. All the questions lead him to discussing the Chinese. Despite his efforts at diverting to freedom of the press the questioner was bringing him to talking about China. I must admit Sata comes off as a wise guy here.

  51. Sata, dont think Banda will leave for you grade 7. No way baba. Ichobe chobe. Sata talks without talking. Tukakuchinga mwaice. You have failed the PACT how can you win Election mwaice.

  52. Its amazing how SATA fails to see a US$2bn smelter investment by the Chinese at Chambeshi. To have brains is to give credit were its due. In this interview he fails to say what laws the Chinese have broken. The are Australians, Canadians and British working at Kansenshi and Lumwana mines why is that on an issue? A clear inferiority complex a constable trained under the British

  53. GENTS and girls (mushota) THE HONEST THING IS LAWS ARE IMPORTANT TO NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT. IF THE RULE OF LAW WAS IN EFFECT THEN EVERYBODY WILL FEAR LAW. FOR EXAMPLE THE LIKES OF WILLIAM BANDA WILL BE IN JAIL BY NOW. SO LAW IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR NATIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
    USA, Australia, Britain e.t.c are governed by law and law has made these countries what they are now. but zambia is maned by RB and his circle and that is the reason we have people doing what they can with impunity. SATA IS THE MAN GUYS HE IS ABLE TO EFFECT LAWS WHICH WILL EFFECT CHANGE. CHANGE IS IN OUR LAW SYSTEM.

  55. After carefully reading the text, I rescind my earlier negative attack towards Michael Chilufya Sata.

    Rescind- to withdraw an earlier action or statement. Or in easy English I have changed my mind because Sata did not support gays. His use of the queens tongue on that one instant was just to advanced for most heads.
    He used 80s kwazi primary and 90s lakeroad secondary school English. When both schools were still run by ZCCM. If he had used international school American basic English ( mixed with yo language) people would have understood.

  56. Its very clear that a constable can never understand the geo-political and economical dynamics of the world in terms of the chinese. The say experience is good but luck of education is a clear limitation to this SHIKUKU

  57. You can argue all you want, Mr Sata made a gaffe! The interview was going on so well until he brought in the issue of gayism – totally out of context. Many times he likes shooting himself in the foot by making statements which are overboard. In politics when you make a gaffe your opponents will capitalize on it. Maybe he needs a ‘political image consultant.’

  58. Man cant see the Ndola stadium.The whole interview was about the Chinese,does that still sell,no policy or whatso ever alluded to eish,how he manages to hoodwink gullible people still a 8th natural wonder.

  59. @
    Ku South Africa above my post, though I despise PF and UPND, throw in MMD aswell Sata has spoken the truth. African nations have great laws but seem not to implement them. Whether its deliberate or due to lack of being learned by our representatives in parliament it beats me; no one seems to uphold even a fraction of the constitution. If the Chinese or any other investor comes to Zambia, let them rent from Zambians or build homes under local government regulations. They can send money home but have to pay taxes to Uncle Ndlovu like we pay to uncle sam here period.

  60. @ Mosi Yanga, an interview is usually tabulated by the interviewer in this case the journalist, Mr. Sara was simply adding on by branching off as a politician must cause the electorate and international citizen are usually one track agenda oriented. What of it is a stadium in relation to development anyway. Leaving abroad you know the journalist wanted a China bashing session due to China’s rise to now the second biggest economy on the planet. It’s crushing Europe one euro at a time so the want to regain a foothold.

  61. #31 if you say you “recognize that cholera is there in mandevu all want we need is to combat it”. Are you saying you like cholera? Recognition is an act of taking note that a particular thing or situation exists. It does not mean in any way that you like or dislike that particular situation or thing. Please let us not mislead each other at the expense of understanding.

  62. Sata can say what ever s-h-i-t he wants, a PF supporter will be there to twist it and defend him, of cousre blindly

  64. SATA WAS GIVEN A BROWN ENVELOPE AGAIN, THE MAN HAS ACCUMULATED DEBT WITH SINFUL LOANS! 2011, SATA KUYABEBELE

  65. It is amazing how pro Sata people will twist the English language just to justify Satas ambitions. From the entire transcript it is clear the man will not answer a question truthfully. He is talking about warm predictable relationships…hardly what can be expected from him at all. This man is not an angel and niether is Rupiah Banda. However, we have had no need to anticipate the worst with MMD under Rupiah as it behaved when MMD had Sata as number 2.

  66. its now official that the Public Media and gov Ngi’s took smoke intead of fire from this straight forward interview. am even more perplexed that znbc is still claiming that they have a tape of the recorded interview. has znbc got people who have been to school or they have just deliberately chosen to defend their masters….??.even went to interview some poor chitimukulu all the way to northern province to tarnish sata’s name. poor political propaganda. you have failed shameless bunch of scared little minions.kuyabebele…..whatever you do. ….youa re going this year.

  67. But guys mulasekesha!!! Is this a conversation you can even go on a pedestal that Sata is intelligent? He can’t even answer a question straight!! This man is insane.

  69. Its time to rest old man, you had your chance to implement the laws unfortunately you coundn’t, you were in the comfort zone enjoying yourselves with your best friend Chiluba at the expense of many Zambians, he think he can fool us….

  70. Now if you break the stone today when are people going to play football in the stadium?

    You don’t break a stone today and tomorrow people start playing football.

  71. Kwena Sata has been defended. He should have just answered the question straight. Or maybe he should not try so hard to look intelligent by giving long winding answers. I wonder what blunder he will make next. Get ready to pipa him again.

  72. i just like this man Sata i don’t care about what pipo says about him but he is the right man for Zambia
    i pray that God gives a chance to liberate Zambia he has alot of wisdom and he is intelligent viva Sata

  73. am sure the reason of posting this Transcript was to discredit our beloved president,but what has happened is the opposite.it is now clear and loud,thanks very much lusaka times you are now doing a good job!!!even a blind man can see that the MMD and there NGO together with Chanda chimba were just trying to paint a bad picture about our president.the more you talk bad things about President Sata the more you make him popular.this transcript has shown that Ba Sata is the right person to be the republican president,only a foolish fool would say that Ba Sata was supporting Gays and leisbains because its very clear.shame ZNBC together with your Chanda chamba what ever you call your self!!viva viva viva viva ba sata!!!!!

  74. please give us latest and quality reports, Sata is coming up stronger every day. I still like Sata’s politics

  75. Total ignorance, this does not sound like it is coming from someone who want to be a president, Sata is so ignorant about the Chinese and what they are doing in Zambia. Does Sata Know that China is the 2nd biggest economy in the world, even the USA is establishing closer ties with China. This interview transcripts is very shallow, the man does not even know how to answer questions. Did he really even need to mention guy people? no one asked him about that.

    Thank God most Zambia are more intelligent than our grade 4 policeman wannabe president and they don’t vote him into office.

  76. What have I have got from this interview is a confused old man who can not put his answers clearly and straight forward. His brain is tired and it needs to go to the farm. It appears his research on the subject is flowed and he needs to stop politics.The man is not only confused but lost on this subject no wonder people have concluded he supports gays. Abash old police constables from the colonial days.All his mates are gone,Evelyne Hone, Roy Welesnky etc. He is a dead man moving man in politics. VIVA UPND.HH for 2011.

  77. Well now i know that cobra was falsely accused.The writing is clear for those who atleast went up to standard two education.Viva pf.

  78. QUESTION 16: So you wouldn’t make some new rules or some new conditions or some new restrictions regarding the relationship with the Chinese?

    SATA: The point is the laws have already made restrictions. Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen, the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians.
    And the laws of Zambia have provided restrictions and when you go all-over the world, there is not any single country which has not provided restrictions for those things, those are cheap propaganda, the laws are there what we need is to implement the laws.

    NOW IF SATS DOES NOT SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS THEN HE IS A SCATTERBRAIN. THE QUESTION WAS ON CHINA, WHY DID HE GO GAY IF HE HAD NO…

  79. at low when u say it “recognise” it means permits…..if i say the law recognises this one as owner….it means it permits that some one to operate as owner……..The LAZ said zambian laws DO NOT recognise gay rights………so SATA was wrong or deliberately chose to mislead people. It also followss that he said…..what is remaming is to “IMPLEMENT” the laws meaning to operationalise the recognition of GAYS……..this is what the LAZ and the CHURCHES…and all morally up[right people are rejecting…….no amount of semantics will change this fact……ZAMBIA LAWS do NOT RECOGNISE GAYS period…..

  80. SATA HAS JUST BEEN CAUGHT IN HIS OWN WORDS. CHAPS, LISTEN SATA WAS ASKED BOUT CHINA, WHETHER HE WOULD CHANGE THE LAWS WHEN HE IS PRESIDENT AND THE GUY GOES GAY. IS THERE ANY CORRELATION IN HIS ANSWER AND THE QUESTION? WHAT PROMPTED HIM TO TALK GAY? IF FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE WE SAY IT IS AN INNOCENT EXAMPLE, IT’S A WRONG ONE BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN ACCUSED BEFORE THAT HE IS CHAMPIONING GAY RIGHTS. MY LITTLE PSYCHOLOGY TELLS ME THAT ACTUALLY SATA KNEW HIS AUDIENCE VERY WELL. REALISING THAT THE SCRIBES WERE NOT TALKING GAY, HE INTRODUCED THE SUBJECT. IT APPEARS THE SCRIBES WERE VERY FOCUSED IN WHAT THEY WANTED FROM SATA. GAY RIGHTS WERE HIS OWN VOLUNTARY CONTRIBUTION. HE IS CLEAR zambian laws recognise gay rights. No amount of whitewashing will clean SATA’s perspectives

  81. In this interview, Sata did not say anything. What ever he said about gays can be interpreted either way. His sentence structure and use of words needs some work. As a communicator, it is always your problem if your message is received correctly

  82. I am compelled to seriously question the leadership qualities of HH now. Was he privy to the full transcript of this interview or he just relied on what the MMD, his newly-discovered fountain of “reliable” information, told him? This is big disgrace. Every time they try to vilify him, Sata proves he is a wiser leader than they are.

  83. The analytical abilities of some of the bloggers here is absolutely astounding, to say the least! That is all I am going to say for fear of being totally misunderstood by the likes of Kalikwitobo, Analyst and others who see nothing where others see something, and vice versa.

  85. Okay PF clowns what exactly did the old serpent mean when he said “the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians.”? Was it so difficult for him to simply say the laws of Zambia do not condone gayism and lesbians and so do I? Is it logical for example to say the Laws of Zambia recognises corruption to mean that corruption is a crime? If that is how poor your Presdential candidate is when communicating in English then let him speak through a translator or better still use sign language. No wonder HH couldn’t get through to the thick skulled snake! Anyway forgive him, remember his beloved friend, the dwarf, said this serpent couldn’t write NEC minutes well in English.

  86. The Q was: So you wouldn’t make some new rules or some new conditions or some new restrictions regarding the relationship with the Chinese?

    WHY DID SATA ANSWER OUT OF CONTEXT? And is it true that Zambian Laws recognize gay rights? Well there are no legal provisions in the Zambian laws which provide for gay rights. So people, where one argues that SATA stated that the Zambian law recognizes and NOT legalizes gay rights is still wrong. The Zambian laws do not provide for gay rights in terms or recognition or legality….if you what go to LAZ or ZIALE to double check this. In simple terms SATA was ADVOCATING for GAY rights and the truth is that he did not address the question but chose to entangle himself in this advocacy. You don’t need to go to LAW school to get this. Let your NO be NO!

  87. ZNBC,Times of Zambia, dailymail and chanda Cimba what ever, all out wasting our tax to just wage war against one man SATA. Why? This man will make leadership ineresting. He is a very honest person, very hard working and there are no dull moments with him. Nurses remember him very well, not what is happening in Hopitals. At Kakoso CLINIC in Chililabombwe 0n 16/03/2011, a boy of 12 years died in the night whilst the old retired nurses from KCM locked themselves up in the office to sleep. Because these old retired and tired nurse mock parents who cares their sick they were scared to wake up these nurse. Just think the realising that the nurses could come out from where they were sleeping, the boy called out for help for hours until he died. Asking thsese nurses only to anmswer that they…

  88. The man can not articulate issues.The man cant convincingly answer the question put to him.The man has absolutely no agenda for Zambia.It is so sad that people cant see this or they choose to ignore the obvious to the detriment of this might nation.I shudder when i imagine him at the helm, as president.With his inconsistencies, i wonder what this nation will become.He cannot express himself clearly on issues hence the misunderstandings.The ability to use common sense is clearly not his way as depicted in his inability to state clearly his position on matters.Sorry folks, Sata has not and will not persuade me to think he is presidential material,Rupiah does not have the said attributes to a certain extent, but is certainly far ahead of the cobra.

  89. “Now if you break the stone today when are people going to play football in the stadium?
    You don’t break a stone today and tomorrow people start playing football.”

    Gee Mr President my 10 year old niece could have figured that one out. Very intelligent indeed!

  90. This is the Presidential candidate Zambia needs.To you friends in the western province sail in the boat.Znbc propaganda won’t make us stop voting for PF.We love you Micheal,Guy,Lubinda,Inonge,Winter,Mpombo,Harringnton and Sacika.Let US go Zambia nimwamukolo che

  91. Sata was being pushed in a corner to attack chinese investments and clearly that was nonsense. China has lifted more african people out of poverty than any other country in modern history. Just two weeks ago, China loaned Zimbabwe $700 million without silly conditions when as we know Zimbabwe cannot get loans from IMF and world bank.

  92. Sata seems incapable of logical thinking, can anyone make sense of any of the answers he has provided during this interview? I think the only clear point is that he supports homosexuality and he should be man enough to admit it because that seems to be thrust of his point in the interview above. I have no born to chew with this stance because discrimination is discrimination, regardless of race, gender or sexual inclination. I mean, how would Kunda feel if we inserted a Clause in our constitution barring people with AIDS, like him, from being involved in active politics? Further, this stu.pi.dity of Christian nation is lunancy of the worst order, we are Africans and that should be enough.

  93. QUESTION 16: So you wouldn’t make some new rules or some new conditions or some new restrictions regarding the relationship with the Chinese?

    SATA: The point is the laws have already made restrictions. Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen, the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians

    Question 16 above is very clear as the questioner wanted to know whether Sata’s government would make some new rules or some new conditions or some new restrictions regarding the relationship with the Chinese? Now,look at the answer Sata gives.Totally out of topic.The questioner must have been pleasantly surprised at the turn of events.SATA PLEASE OWN UP AND APOLOGISE CHAPWA!

  94. Can this man speak in a coherent way?? He appears to be confused about issues and so cant clearly speak or perhaps he;s got language problem. I would suggest he speaks in bemba for the sake of clarity otherwise this was absolute gibberish.

  95. This is the reason why one should be clear in what they want to say. Don’t make ambigious statements which can be interpreted either way depending on whose side one is. Don’t dig your own grave!

  96. It is sad that LT can use this extract to try and demean a Presidential candidate in our country. Our country needs better sighted journalists than ones not to see dangers lying ahead. I am also at a loss as to what the gays issue is about. There are laws indeed in Zambia dealing with homosexuality, although people choose to bury their heads in sand. Sata has said nothing wrong. As for the Chinese, we have to be real. If we want development, there has to be empowerment for Zambians. We cannot have investors coming to compete with marketeers. Open your eyes!

  97. With all the lies and deceit, this is my prayer

    Father, please forgive our political leaders for their sins. Forgive them for greed, hypocrisy, injustice, selfish ambitions, pride, arrogance, idolatry, adultery, slander, sexism, elitism, oppression, partiality, lust, manipulations, lying, ungodliness, perversion, and any act of sinfulness. Lord, forgive me for passing judgment on our political leaders. Forgive us, the body of Christ, for not praying for them.

    Father, we ask you to raise up modern day David’s, Solomon’s, Joseph’s, Nehemiah’s, Deborah’s, Ruth’s and Esther’s who will joyfully and purposefully work in the political sector in order to help rebuild and restore our communities.In Christ Jesus I pay, Amen

  98. LT, I would request that you translate that statement in Chewa for Rupiah and in Tonga for Hakaivotela Heka (HH). My take is Sata’s comand of the English Language far surpasses Rupiah and HH’s comprehension. Such wisdom from Sata has been lacking from a head of state and we need that this year. Let’s all go and campaign for Sata, and please do not think MMD has been winning in rural areas no. It was simply a luck of Paralell Voter Registers in 2006, 2008. Let’s all go and be part of the Election Process including PVT

  99. “the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians”.
    Can some one quote those caps and codes for me which recognises gayism and lesbianism in ours laws?

  100. This man is finished. The Sata i knew during the KK days would answere better than this. The man is really old or just dull. I can not see anything presidntial from his “answers”. What a presidential candidate! I think we are in trouble as a country if we have such people as presidential candidates. On the homo thing I would want someone on this blog to cite the laws in our statutes that talk about gays & lesbians. However my concern is the way he was responding to simple questions and am really put off. Awe nadawa even for those supporting him awe naumfwa uluse no bulanda for my country. Such a man as our presido awe mwe.

  101. Just a thought,what do you think happens in Zambian prisons?prisoners contract HIV in there and here bloggers want to pretend as if Homosexuality does not exist in Zambia.Do you think those prisoners should be put on surveillance and those found wanting tried using the penal code?SATA is a clever guy,im sure he knows some big fish in the current government who are secretly gay plus what happens in Zambian prisons and has laid a bait.sadly we have swallowed bait in sinker and cant read between the lines.

  102. Black Man’s Chaild @92, why pick only the part of a sentence, read the other part as well and you will understand why the man was saying. “Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen” is a very important part of the whole sentence. He was talking about making new laws and contended that the existing laws adequately address the issue. Yes, to that extent, current Zambian laws recognises and puts restrictions on Gays and Lesbians.

  103. #90

    Walasaaa….

    Question 16 above is very clear as the questioner wanted to know whether Sata’s government would make some new rules or some new conditions or some new restrictions regarding the relationship with the Chinese? Now,look at the answer Sata gives.Totally out of topic.The questioner must have been pleasantly surprised at the turn of events.SATA PLEASE OWN UP AND APOLOGISE CHAPWA!

    Surely SATAn was out of topic, i think, he was spiritaully absent!

  104. To be frank with you fellow bloggers, there is no substance in this interview. MCS failed lamentably to articulate issues.

    He was just talking like he is in the mini bus going to Chilenji or something. I dought if he even prepared for this interview.

    God save mother Zambia from these Mafias who want to reap where they dint sow!

    Amen

  105. Atase ati Sata is a clever guy….why not just say he is a clever gay. Whether homosexuality exists in Zambia is not the issue here. The issue here is ‘is it LEGAL’? Do we want to legalize homosexuality? The answer of the majority in Zambia is a BIG NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  106. Mr Sata is very dull zoona! He thinks that everyone who is 47 has grand children.He should stop geeneralizing. I am 47 and my eldest kid is 15. Bakamba you are a re a tired man , just retire from policks with your old concepts!!

  107. If the laws do not recognize the existence of gayism and lesbianism, then how come we have laws on sodomy in our statute books? Recently, some students at Kabulonga Boys High School were found with a case to answer in the Lusaka Magistrate Court for the offence of sodomy. My limited understanding tells me that sodomy, gayism, and lesbianism are equivalent. Surely, is it not true that our laws recognize, know or acknowledge the existence of such things as sodomy? If that is not the case, how did the court come up with the judgment against the Kabulonga students? How can you come up with a judgment against something you do not recognize?

  108. Mr Sata is expressing the frustration most of us outside Zambia experience whenever we try to follow the laws. We are mostly told “that doesn’t work here … do this” and they point you to a method that absolutely breaks the very law that has been laid down. So you would understand when the poor man says all we need to look into is what the letter of the law says!!! If there are laws prescribing behaviours, how can we even begin to say there is “change” just because a law is finally being implemented??? I remember quarelling with our Police men when they tried to force me to stick the ugly reflectors on my car until I invited them to call up their IG who had given directives that we should not be harassed if our cars had foreign plates!!!!!

  109. But seriously speaking, SATA mukali sana!! lets face facts the Man is gud one. two he his the only Man with the heart for the Zambian people, and he his the only one with the leadership qualities so what more do Zambians need? if you are a zambian and you can’t see how gud this Man his then you really need help.. it means you are sick or you are **** with utujilijili.. PF for life VIVA SATA!! VIVA PF!! we really need change all we will die as a country coz there is no future in the MMD and that’s a fact.. we don’t have to run away from facts.. So please Zambian People let’s think straight let not make any mistakes this time.

  110. How do people understand the word recorgnise? Sata simply meant that there is such a thing happening in our society and the legislature is aware so they have put up a law to govern. Whether this law is restrictive or not. it is sad that learned people have taken political mileage. It shows how desperate people want to stay in power. He just went off the question that he was asked.

  111. If a leader’s spoken words are misinterpreted by a larger section of the populace, then it is time he sharped his communication skills. Here, whatever Chilufya was trying to communicate, did not come out clearly and it is downright confusing to say the least! Maybe muCibemba nga fyali fye straightforward!

  112. SATA: The point is the laws have already made restrictions. Some people are saying I am talking to you people because I want to bring back the gay and lesbians and I tell them to say listen, the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians.

    And the laws of Zambia have provided restrictions and when you go all-over the world, there is not any single country which has not provided restrictions for those things, those are cheap propaganda, the laws are there what we need is to implement the laws.

  113. There is a kiswahili phrase that goes “Cizungu cinatuwomana”… the trouble with most of us is we fail to read English properly – worse still, we fail to see metaphors and decipher rhetoric. Sata had a lot of that in this interview. If you read it in a hurry you tend to come away thinking like the majority who are crying on the rooftops. If you read it again you begin to see what he is actually trying to say. We have become so accustomed to half-truths, gossip and slander that most of us do not even stop to listen (do we even read!!???). Coonadi, cizungu capwanya mitu wanzanga!!!

  114. I can not analyse this much better than #95 in the manner hehas put it.People should read the whole sentence to get to the meaning than get a phrase and interpret it to suite their thinking.

  115. I dont think my englich can be that bad, to recognise one is to show approval and appreciation of someone. Its different from identifying someone. Sata in my view should quot the laws which recognise gays chapwa

  116. Surely we need to read a lot for us to have a fair understanding of any story. This story has brought to light that what other media houses have been saying are lies. Similarly, those that are bashing HH here, read the full story from Daily mail and see for yourself what he said about the issue of gays. Please don’t just read the post or any other media and get it as gospel truth. Read widely and then you will have a better opinion on national issues. Stop being emotional

  117. I can’t believe Sata is still so antagonistic with the worlds number 1 importer of Zambia’s number one export – copper. Very dull and immature

  118. # 99 Cyber Gloves,
    Stop using your kidneys to think, @ 47 an average person is eligible to being a grand parent considering the fact that an average age limit for people to enter into matrimony is between 22 – 30 yrs. Now if we have to consider teen pregnancies that are on the increase, the expectancy even drops down 35yrs of age. In fact at that age (47) you are only left with three years to clock 50 and at fifty you ought to be boasting of being a granny to beautiful grandchildren that are in between the ages of 5 and 10 years. of age.

  120. I still think Sata is not presidential material. The man is not diplomatic at all. That is why under him, simple things like this can have serious impact on our nation. He is too quick to say things which even him can’t understand. Think before you act and do not talk too much least some one misquotes your words.

  121. Actually…this all just proves a fact that SATA is one inteliigent man thats why me and my household are still going to give him our votes.VIVA PF……..DONCH KUBEBA here we come.

  124. # 31 Kashimani, Sata didn,t make any grammatic error, it is your homophobic mind that is TWISTED. When a sober minded leader like Sata is recognizing the existence of certain behaviours like homosexuality and implementation of laws that are enshrined in our constitution, he does not have to sound like he has a personal vendetta against this group of people. Refer also to # 61 John,
    # 38 Condused, HH’s supporters should aswell join him in singing praises to RBish and the thieving MMD, because recently, they all sound like MMD cadres. Look at this same Condused/Confused @ 41, totally insane!

  125. SATA IS VERY RIGHT.FOR ZAMBIA TO PUT RESTRICTIONS TO GAYS AND LESBIANISM IT MEANS THEY AGREE OR RECOGNISE THAT IT EXISTS.THAT DOEST MEAN SATA SUPPORTS THESE THINGS NO.LIARS WANT TO DESTROY SATA,MWACHEPASANA.WE ALL WENT TO SCHOOL AND WE READ AND UNDERSTAND.MMD WHAT TO ME US UNDERSTAND THE WAY THEY WANT IT TO BE UNDERSTAND.DONT KUBEBA IYI WENA TO LEWINA

  126. # 51 Gaddaf Phiri, what do you mean by, “Tukakuchinga mwaice”? Do you imply MMD and RBish will rig? Watch out, as this year this canterkerous behaviour will not be tolerated or else RBish will end up like Muammar Gaddaffi shooting at all of us, bloody I*D*I*O*T*S!
    # 52 Ku south Africa, you have not read that Zambians were laid off at Chambeshi mine to create vacancies for the Chinese labourers? And when their colleagues protested in sympathy, they were shot at by Zambia Police. Watupa sile!
    The Chinese investing US$700 million while Mugabe abuses his people is not for the Zimbabweans, but for the exploitation of Zimbabweans mineral resources and to bring into Africa more Chinese labourers while African starve and die to diseases and poverty!

  127. # 115 villager, I am tempted to believe you are a real villager! In argumentative speech, if I say that, I recognise that we have a serious epidermic spreading, does this statement mean I like the epidermic? Chizungu chabe!

  128. Villager at 117, copper may be Zambia’s number 1 export but it is not the number 1 contributer to GDP, Why? For your information, in 2010, Copper represented only 3% of GDP contribution why agriculture was number 1 at 17%. Reason, poor laws that allow mining companies to deposit their revenue dollars in foreign accounts and only bring to Zambia enough to pay salaries and bills.

  129. You people, of course we know that SATA is always thinking of supporting homosexuality.
    How come he starts to talk about homosexuality when the question was about the relationship with the Chinese?
    Tell me, what was in his mind? I am sure even the interviewer was shocked at the statement. from nowhere “Zambia has laws that recognise gayism, Zambia has laws that reconise lesbianism”.
    Is that the only thing he could think to illustrate his stand over the chinese viz Zambia?
    This shows his mind is focused on gays and lesbians.

  130. O M G!!!! what incoherence!!! What misconceptions!!What dysjointed reasoning!…. from a future president?? indeed!! And to think that not less than 50 % of bloggers, especially the first half of the postings, concur with this makes this the saddest day of my life!!!
    Thats all I have to say!!!!

  131. SATA IS A VERY INTELLIGENT LEADER. ZNBC,TIMES OF ZAMBIA AND DAILY MAIL MUST EXPOSE AND MAKE GOVT OFFICIALS WORK AND NOT SING PRAISES FOR RUPIAH AND KUNDA.
    VIVA SATA AND PABWATO COME 2011. VIVA WIND OF CHANGE.

  132. I have just finished reading the Sata interview, it makes interesting reading. I have read question and answer # 16 and concluded that there is something very wrong with those saying Sata is supporting gays. They have become so confused that they are seeing ghosts in every dark corner!!

  133. “It is not the money campaigning because they give money I chew, I have cars, but because what we need is prepare ourselves to be like people who have struggled to be where they are.”

    Can any of the Sata worshipers please explain to me what he meant here? You seem to be the only once that can decode what this man says.

  134. The most useless thing in Zambian politics was the thing called PACT.
    Both the leaders who were in the pact had no idea what it meant and never wanted to table it.
    Both SATA and HH kept guessing their own making.
    Of course it was OK for HH to keep guessing what SATA meant because the man does not want to be responsible for his words since he does not trust himself.
    He makes everything unclear so that everyone is kept guessing. Just like now, he has kept many nationals guessing over his homosexual support. But those of us who know what type of man he is, we know that when he says “there are laws that recognise gays” he means what he says – no need to guess. A leader must be clear on issues and his direction must be clear and commited to his word.Be responsible and state as it is.

  135. #132 Tikambenji,

    Of course we know that SATA is always thinking of supporting homosexuality.
    How come he starts to talk about homosexuality when the question was about the relationship with the Chinese?
    Tell me, what was in his mind? I am sure even the interviewer was shocked at the statement. from nowhere “Zambia has laws that recognise gayism, Zambia has laws that reconise lesbianism”.
    Is that the only thing he could think to illustrate his stand over the chinese viz Zambia?
    This shows his mind is focused on gays and lesbians.

  136. Somebody please help me…. I am now having severe anxiety symptoms about this.
    ‘ commandist democracy?!!’ its taking me imagining sata as president and making a speech at the UN.
    Oh God, this unbearable!!

  137. I am very dissapointed with Sata’s level of discourse. I dont think even education could have helped and to think he considers himself ‘intelligent’ is an insult to the word itself. No, this is unbeleivable…talk of incoherence….

  138. After reading the transcript, I have to my conclusion that HH is very dishonesty and a liar with respect to hi claim that Sata wanted to pull a surprise by including a gay clause in the constitution. I a so disappointed with the young man. This matter is now burried because we know who is telling the lies now. Its HH, Lufwekelo and Chifire.

  139. In mental health Mr Sata’s responses are called ‘word salad’. Meaningless, poorly arranged words which do not come anywhere near forming a coherent sentence. There is no need to even attempt to make sense of what he was trying to say…..

  140. This interview has gone a long way in showing the shallowness and lack of intellect that characterize Zondwe’s head. Any person who can claim they make sense of this wealth of disjointed utter bunkum need their head tested for “masalamusi”. I mean, if this “te bunangwa koko”, elyo kanshi me I do not know that “chizende” behaviour is like. I mean, you ask someone a question about Chinese investment in Zambia and off the wall the senile lumpen goes delving into homosexuality. Well, maybe that time Levy threw him in jail for stealing ZISS cars, a jail top dog nailed Zondwe “yakumbuyu” in the process addicting him to the none straight inclination. Now he wants all of us to start taking it from behind. Wanya Zondwe.

  141. yes thats what it is #139, cool; add neologism to the profile ( @ comandist democracy ). thanks for that, my anxiety symptoms are now receding!

  142. Wow, have never seen such many postings on any item refering to Rupiah on this blog. Does it mean he is a nonentity or just cannot just sell to the people.

  143. Sata will promote homosexauality . Read the answer to question 16. If you are in dought, please seek legal interpretaion of his answer.

  144. VIVA SATA 2011, whatever you say ZNBC, RB, and your cohorts ni ba SATA chabe!!!!!!!!!!!! If education came to eradicate ignorance, its 2011 years since man ventured on the path to eradicate ignorance but we have more educated ignorant fools than 000BC

  145. Sata sold his inner thoughts, he knew that Gay issues in Zambia are very sensitive, of all examples why did he bring it up. There a lot of better examples he could have given when it came to answering the question at hand. He brought all these troubles on himself because he does not think before spitting out words

  146. But this is from the Post Noise Makers. How do we know they didnt doctor the interview just the way people claim ZNBC doctored the audio ?

  147. “….the laws of Zambia recognise gayism, the laws of Zambia recognise lesbians…”
    Whoever refined Mr Sata’s grammar must have been trying to put up a good picture of the man.
    His actual grammar was “….the laws of Zambia recogniseS gayism, the laws of Zambia recogniseS lesbians….”
    That is the way he was quoted on tape, and that is the way it was captured in the verbatim report by the Times of Zambia, exactly what he said. Anyway, the point is that the interview leaves no doubt that Mr Sata does support gayism and lesbianism. As for those who ask why we have only picked the gay issue from the lengthy interview, well the answer is that the rest is well known and boring, there is nothing new about his views on Chinese investments. We have condemned him sufficiently for that.

  148. Can any of you condone being descriminated against because you are BLACK (pre Mandela SA “NO DOGS OR BLACKS ALLOWED IN HERE” posted on hotels and other establishments)? It is the same for the gay people. They are people like any one else in the eyes of God. The vast majority of gay people are born that way. They do not choose to be gay. Just as I will defend my right to be heterosexual, I will defend the right of gays to be what they are. Zambians like Zimbabwe and a number of other underdeveloped “democracies” think it is correct to restrict or bar the rights of individuals to be what they are or want. They encourage direct discrimination against these people. Simply put, If it is fine to discriminate against gays, it is therefore also right for whites to descriminate against…

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