The ruling Movement for Multi-party Democracy (MMD) says it is illogical for anyone to suggest that the party should find a replacement for President Rupiah Banda as presidential candidate in the forthcoming general elections.
MMD Deputy National Secretary Chembe Nyangu says there is no point for the party to take such a step as President Banda was legally adopted and endorsed by the convention which is the highest decision making body of the party.
Mr. Nyangu says it is worrisome that the opposition Patriotic Front has started coming up with gimmicks when it has realized that it has already lost the elections to the MMD.
In an interview with QFM, Mr. Nyangu has accused the PF of trying to find a weaker candidate to face in the forthcoming general election as it has realized that president Banda is a saleable and winning candidate.
The MMD deputy national secretary says the MMD will remain steadfast and will not to give the PF any chance by bowing to its demands.
Recently, the opposition Patriotic front advised the MMD to find a replacement for president Banda as presidential candidate for the forthcoming elections noting that president Banda is not eligible to stand for presidency as his parentage is questionable.
And The Civil society Election Coalition 2011 says justice should prevail on the concerns raised on the eligibility of president Rupiah Banda to stand in this year’s election.
CSEC 2011 representative Lee Habasonda says the coalition will follow the matter with the interest it deserves because it borders on the republican constitution.
Mr. Habasonda adds that the judiciary should ensure that the eligibility of the republican president in the forthcoming election is treated with the seriousness it deserves.
In an interview, Mr. Habasonda adds that the issues surrounding president Rupiah Banda%u2019s parentage should not compromise the holding of free and elections.
He further states that the coalition wants to see Zambia hold free and fair elections without any pending issues.
QFM
Oh come now Nyangu, how can u fail to think outside the box?
MMD seems to have legally adopted and endorsed by the convention an non Zambian to stand for President. They are now in trouble and without a candidate.
Okay Mukeminika CHUULA…Muleyangala na constitution………
I thought the COBRA was just wafling..now this has com to mind that its high time us zambians became serious with constitution matters……..
Well, if Mr. R. B. Banda is not allowed to stand on account of being barred by the Constitutional requirement, then you have no choice but to find a replacement, Mr. Nyangu. Remember that when Mr. Banda was took the oarth of office, he swore to ‘defend, uphold and protect the Constitution of the Republic of Zambia’. Now you are being made to swallow your own words. That is what happens when Constitutions are amended to fix certain individuals; you are now being given a dose of your old medicine. Epo mpelele!!
Most of you people in the diasporra are there with your wives and you are having children there,so does it mean they are not zambians and will never vie for presidency at one point,lets be objective and carefull with what we say.
Until they renounce our children are not Zambian but are of Zambian parents
It is the constitution. Not until it is changed. The status quo remains. Thanks to Kafupi FTJ for fixing his friend Bwezani
U see, pressure is mounting in the two camps (MMD – PF) i wouldnt blame SATA for thinking and digging beyond our reach. If RB is really not Zambian, then MMD should just hid to KABIMBA advice. …….. Tiyeni nayo PF
This is not about bowing to PF demands… it’s about abiding by the law/constitution.
I meant to say, ‘when Mr. Banda took…’ Delete ‘was’.
Truely zambian, a man with integrity, born in the soil of mother zambezi comon known as zambia.Rupiah Bwezani Banda. bachepa bangwele.fyanshi mubala ngatamwakwata maka. ubukopoooooo. NAFUTI NAFUTI.
How can Sata ask the MMD to replace its candidate? I thought that it is logical to face a weaker opponent?
Imwe tu ”mmd”It is not the party to decid who to stand on the national presidancy,it’s the constution of the country, not of the party.RB is not going to win this years elections period.
NO AMOUNT OF INTIMIDATION WILL STOP US FROM VOTING MMD OUT
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But yabeba manje. MMD its never too late. we must uphold the constitution and not illegality. Ba RB is now against the wall finally. I think UPND must join on this noble cause. Cornellius is a wolf in mmd clothing don’t to him. He has been frequenting State House. UPND pliz join the battle!
The man is not Zambian (RB), HE EVEN went to his roots in Zimbabwe, it was himself who told us about his roots. Kuya bebele We want a zambian leader. bye bye RB, AND WILCOME sata
I am confused…what is Nyangu saying? Is he confirming that their is a problem? Didn’t someone just get the pf to do their dirty work for them? Don’t like the tone and direction this is taking…
I usually dont agree with SATA….but he is right on this issue. If u dont like the Law, change it. Have u heard that no one is above the law?
#6 Children by Zambians outside Zambia can not be Prsident one day. The constitution does not allow. So is Mr Banda. Nothing against him personally but the constituion does not alow him. Change the const. first.
So iwe Ka Joseph, you have just come accross the constitution? Where where you in 2008. It’s only next month, vote RB out if you can.
You will reap what you sow !
The Law is the Law
Recpect the Constitution !!
Instead of removing the abuse of office clause from the ACC Act they could have changed it !!
but crooks are crooks
they preferred to line their pockets and protect themselves
those corrupt guys are impostors, rupiah first !!
but MMD supporters, don’t be afraid…
George Red Lpi, Ronnie or Dora the Big Mamma are good presidential candidates … LOL LOL
I am disappointed with MMD’s defence of RB. I am not a lawyer but u cant argue that RB is qualified bcoz he’s served in other positions before. If u are caught stealing u cannot claim your innonce by saying that how come u were not caught last time u stole. THATS STUP1D!!
Sata alala, alala, Sata alala, alala!! Its safer to say PF conceded defeated on Tuesday. The writing was on the wall:No credible candidates for MPs, no anticipated mass defections from MMD apart from Manjata, fired Mulongoti, expelled Mpombo,frustrated Masebo, confussed Patrick Mwanawasa etc. So the last dice is to try and get a weaker candidate to stand against.Well, it wont work because this gimmic was championed and it failed by the The Post in 2008 to try and put Magande against Sata knowing very well that Magande was unsellable. Ba Sata just brace for RB and prepare yourself for a 4th defeat. You are going in the Guiness Book of records for so many defeats.
TWALEMYEBA BA BOOTLICKER; KWALIBA PARTY IYABULA VICE PRESIDENT ;MMD VICE PRESIDENT SHOULD STAND IF RB FAILS TO PROVE HIS ELIGIBILITY.YOU NEED TO RESPECT THE CONSTITUTION. KK WAS BARRED IN 1996 BY THE SAME CLAUSE. WAPYA MUNZI. THATS WHAT SELFISHNESS CAN DO.
PF has lost it all..they will never win elections!
the problem with the |PF and its members is that u can not see beyong what MCS says…when he says JUMP all u ask is HOW HIGH BOSS! this issue is going NOWHERE..its un fortunate that u are trying to divert attention because u have failed to convince us the electorate..its a shame..
PF supporters you should skin Wynter kabimba alive when u lose elections because he has shifted the attention of the party.Advise him to concentrate on camaigns u just have 45 days
#18 I need more clarity does the constitution say one has to be born in Zambia or ot just says must be a Zambia with both parents Zambians…if that is so then they qualify if not we are all selfish parents in diaspora, yaba it hit me wandi…looking for better life has actually blocked my children from being Presidents one day its not fair we need to amend the constitution then…advise please yakosa….. and the other amendement is the required 20 years having lived in Zed
Gentlemen; look at this article on Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupiah_Banda concerning the Ruphia Banda’s origins. Why should we have the constitution favoring only a few sections of our Zambian community. Is this animal farm?
Petty politics is the order of the day for the PF. You made noise over the election date, and it was announced, now instead of just campaining, you are stuck on none issues…you know just as much as we all know, RB is Zambian and will be one of the candidates next month. Let us go to the polls and see what happens next. The people can not be fooled, they are seeing things with their own eyes happening.
#6 Our children will HAVE ROOTS BY BIRTH, that is ONE OF THEIR PARENTS IS ZAMBIAN BY BIRTH!!!!!
Kanyangu, IT IS NOT UP TO THE COURTS IN THE FIRST INSTANCE, IT IS DOWN TO ECZ TO VERIFY THE PAPERS, IF THAT FAILS WE THEN GO TO COURT!!!
WE ARE NOT STOPPING YOU FROM FIELDING RBish, JUST THAT WE WILL ENSURE HE IS DISQUALIFIED!!!!!
Rupiah Banda would have lost these Elections anyway. I see the defence by Nyangu as a coverup as MMD will claim they did not participate in the Presidential Elections. PF left the best for last. It had to come at a time that parliament has dissolved and no spin doctor to play the dirty work. DONCHI KUBEBAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
koma imwe ba PF muli problem mwe..so mu-ona monga munga wine case yaso..ignorant ones even saying KK was barred from 1996 election coz of parentage..mind u the Supreme Court set precedence and u take the case ku High Court..JOKERS!!!!!
He was our Diplomat, Vice President and now President! Do you mean our folks who have done Law(off course from UNZA) did not interprete the constitution correctly when he became President? Or is it because the Chief Justice is appointed by the same President. I have said it before, that I do not support MMD but some of our arguments are old fashioned to question this now. My prayer is ” God give us the right President in 2011″.
It is good that PF have taken the matter to court. Now all they need to do is bring solid paper evidence that RB’s father is Malawian, or that the mother is Malawian or Zimbabwean – this depending to what degree of Sata’s daily derangement! Now that the matter is in court, can you go back to campaigning as you await both your electoral and judicial defeat!
lets not ignore this isue coz its a constitution isue… Lets respect by alowing our bwezani to step down…. Time has come for rb to go….
#18 Umuntu, you are wrong on the eligibility of children born outside Zambia. The current constitution states that the candidate shall be a Zambian with both parents being Zambian born in Zambia. It is the parents who should have been born in Zambia provided they do not register their child as non Zambian. Zambian citizenship is by birth or by decent.
MMD should have had a Deputy President of the Party just’n case of some eventuallity; like this constitution issue or indeed death. But because they ignored the warnings on the wall, they are now blaming it on PF and other stake holders. Well? Lets wait and see…
SATA IS VERY INTELLEGENT . ALL OF YOU THOT HE WAS JUST POLITICKING. THE ISSUE IS VERY SERIOUS. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE CONSTITUTION. SATA IS A GREAT LEADER HE RESPECTS ZAMBIANS AND THE CONSTITUTION, RB IS TRYING TO HIJACK THE LAW OF THE LAND; NO WAY.GO BACK TO ZIMBABWE AND RULE ZIMBABWE.
VIVA MILTON PHIRI, you are truely Zambia…
PF if you are popular the way we are told, then just put this matter with simple method without wasting any money and that is through a ballot paper. I need you to finnish him in the ballot instead of these court issues, we have plenty of these things in the past, and they never suceeded in the court of Law, even this one is hearding no where…Just emulate HH who is busy campaigning instead of talking alot, you are loosing your support base if you keep on talking useless things…viva 20HHHHHHHHHHHHHHH…20 SEPT……ni HH chabeeeeee.. 20HHHHHHHHH.
Personal details
Born 13 February 1937 (1937-02-13) (age 74)
Gwanda, Zimbabwe
Political party Movement for Multiparty Democracy
Spouse(s) Hope Mwansa Makulu (deceased)
Thandiwe Banda
Alma mater Addis Ababa University
Lund University
Wolfson College, Cambridge
Religion Anglicanism[1]
RB time is up and since you are from Zim, Zambian’s need Sata in State House.
ECZ WARNS AGAINST FALSE PARENTHOOD AMONG PRESIDENTIAL ASPIRANTS AS THEY ALLOW PVT………..MAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA HOZA PF
RB is a credible leader who should continue forging us ahead with development. Thanks to MMD supporters all over ZED.
Well, Sata will have to find a village in Malawi for RB’s parents who were born in 1887. And then those in the village will have to accept RB as one of them. Thats an easy one I guess. Good luck Mr Sata and your council lawyer.By the way, has ba Winter Kabimba finally won his first case in any court?
My advise for RB is to find a replacement instead of breaking the law.
The onus is on Ba Sata na Kabimba to prove or create a village for RB. Th e Post tried to create one for FJT
#34 thanks for clarity…my kids are registered Zambians although both born outside…I was really getting worried there…. enough said…. Viva Sata Viva PF
Frivolous
Banda was born in the town of Miko, Gwanda, Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe); his parents had come from Northern Rhodesia to find employment prior to his birth, and he was sponsored by a local Dutch Reformed Church preacher (and later, the
Banda was born in the town of Miko, Gwanda, Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe); his parents had come from Northern Rhodesia to find employment prior to his birth, and he was sponsored by a local Dutch Reformed Church preacher (and later, the family of B. R. Naik) to continue his education into adulthood. He became involved in politics when he joined the youth wing of the UNIP in 1960. Banda married his wife, Hope Mwansa Makulu, in 1966 and the couple has three sons together. Banda also has two sons from previous relationships and a set of fraternal twins from his current marriage.
DONCHI KUBEBA/////////
And what did the opposition do these past three years to protest the legality of RB’s presidency (….or to call for investments in domestic capacity to print ballot papers)?
If there was a real issue to debate – fine, but raising this now only makes them look desperate and silly. Not like a credible government at all!
What better time to raise this issue than when parliament is dissolved. lol
# 6 as far as i know the zambia contitution which MMD create says a presidential canditate need to a Zambia by birth and by decent. any child born outside Zambia cannot stand for presendent although they are Zambian citezen by buy descent. This is a seroius issue. MMD created this constitution and now it has come back to bit them. we should teach MMD a leasson next time they attempt to make a law they will think of the future. If RB’s parents are not Zambian by descent RB is not eligible to stand period.
AN EXTRACT FROM WIKIPEDIA GENTLEMEN. TRY TO VISIT IT
Banda was born in the town of Miko, Gwanda, Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe); his parents had come from Northern Rhodesia to find employment prior to his birth, and he was sponsored by a local Dutch Reformed Church preacher (and later, the family of B. R. Naik) to continue his education into adulthood. He became involved in politics when he joined the youth wing of the UNIP in 1960. Banda married his wife, Hope Mwansa Makulu, in 1966 and the couple has three sons together. Banda also has two sons from previous relationships and a set of fraternal twins from his current marriage. He was the UNIP’s representative in Northern Europe in the early 1960s,[5] and in 1965 he was appointed as Zambia’s Ambassador to EgyptÂ
#53 Wow. Please don’t tie yourself into knots you’ll fail to disentangle. A Zambia born outside is a citizen by descent. And if both parents are born in Zambia then he is eligible to stand. As simple as that.
Wikipedia is the least credible source of information – so ignorant to base facts on info from wikipedia!!!!
If RB’s parents were not born in zambia, the man is not eligible to stand. MMD – yaba, really caught pants-down – parliament dissolved so no chance of quickly changing the constitution – ni VIVA PF. Zambians need to wake up and follow the rule of law!!!!! Shame on you MMD
#6 chilufya satana – the constitution stipulates that both parents of a presidential aspirant should be Zambian. No one denies that RB is Zambian but one of his parents wasnt and therefore on that premise he does not qualify to be the president of zambia. unless offcourse the constitution does not mean anything. If my wife is a Zambian then my children could dream to be future presidents of Zambia under the current provision in the law
#29, Lasa Lasa:
Your are missing the point. The constitution has stipulated what I might call a two-level qualification: the candidate must be Zambian AND BOTH HIS PARENTS must be Zambian!
In other words, it is not enough for Rupiah himself to be Zambian; his parents also must be Zambian. So, is that the case with Rupiah?
The same law was used to bar SUPER KEN in 2006, mwanya %bafikala% ba MMD, you have fallen in your own trap. Lesa talala. KABIMBA is a clever guy, he saw a loop hole and why not use it to block the fat monkey.
mwalipena,mwati mapolitikishi aya.ata bane.mwanyanya.
Wapya munzi!!!Wapya munzi!!!
candidate must be Zambian AND BOTH HIS PARENTS must be Zambian:)>-
Icho chintu!!!
From the above COMMENTS, most of them prefere PF. which clearly shows PF has won the foreth coming elections. Dont leage fi MMD imwe. King COBRA here we comeeeeeee!
Mr. Nyangu, even if RB was adopted legally(mmd constitution) by your highest organ, it does not imply that he is legally able to contest the republican presidency.
Even if RB is elected he will be an illegitimate president. Both parents! The law is crystal clear
I think fellow Zambians, you forget easily, when President Banda became president, he rushed to Zimbabwe and he showed us the small house where he used to reside and the tree in the yard which he used to climb. So this parentage issue should be handled with care and am sure it is his relatives the Kaundas that have blown the trumpt since they are against him. Personally, l want to believe that it is true he was born out of parents that are not Zambians and the law must take its course. VIVA PF and Sata
Poor Finishers are laughable losers in every dream.
The misfiled petition is both frivolous and evidence of dangerous incompetence on sata and his league. These are failed political acrobats by political lepers against a sagacious winning RB. Rightly deserve this throw away verdict with costs while MMD is consolidating the victory match.
What a load of kitchen sink politics devoid of foresight. Very proud to be a Zambian patriot in solidarity with RB and his people’s ruling MMD. No wonder every patriotic Zambian says MMD is our party. We are unflinchingly on a victory trail nafuti Nafuti!
While PF and its daft junior lawyer Kabimba who has never won a legal suit since leaving UNZA is busy abusing its limited time on doomed petitions under instructions of retarded Sata, Zambians’ ruling MMD and its RB President of all is in campaign overdrive across the country. Thousands of campaign logistics have been distributed to every branch, ward, constituency, District and province. Thousands of bicycles, boats in places like chilubi and Zambezi have reached end-users.PF surrogates have no strategy, no foresight and no value for time.
Bati mwema Satamaniacs kwena, u’re even proudly supporting this? That’s what I call blind and stupid loyalty. Can’t u finally see that your idol, Sata has no substance to himself? Please let’s be progressive and not be mu ‘federal’. Satamania bulwele kanshi..
It sounds to me that Chembe is conciding that Banda’s parents are foreigners, although this is not the right time for PF to have brought up the issue. The threat in this case is Milton Phiri because he is the Guy at the centre of disclosure, he is the one who will file an injunction restraining RB to file for nomination. The MMD is wasting its time attacking the PF, they have to deal with Milton Phiri, coz the PF has just seen an opportunity here.
MMD let’s campaign, let the time wasters face our lawyers.
Here is one legal issue I want guidance on. First of all I believe RB is legally Zambian – and I will not join time wasters and losers. Let’s assume that RB was not Zambian, but has served as President of Zambia – legally or otherwise, what is the legal basis for barring such an individual when he seeks re-election.
Adviser you suffer from “history erosion”. KK was barred from contesting in 1996 by the same constitution. What has changed for the same law is still applicable. Wake up my man swallow your pride and tell us where RB parents come from. Mind you RB was born in Southern Rhodesia now Zimbabwe…wapya munzi yaba.
RB early life and diplomacy (From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
Rupiah Banda was born in the town of Miko, Gwanda, Southern Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe); his parents had come from Northern Rhodesia to find employment prior to his birth, and he was sponsored by a local Dutch Reformed Church preacher (and later, the family of B. R. Naik) to continue his education into adulthood. He became involved in politics when he joined the youth wing of the UNIP in 1960. Banda married his wife, Hope Mwansa Makulu, in 1966 and the couple has three sons together. Banda also has two sons from previous relationships and a set of fraternal twins from his current marriage.
Chembe Nyangu you FO OOOOOOOL makandi bo
weather RB is zambian or not, what ever, our vote is based on the past 20 yrs of MMD. more than 80% unemployed, nothing manufactured in zambia, cant even print ballot papers in zambia,
all major companies foriegn owned, the only country were work prmits are bought to the detriment of locals, then the monies rasied shownoff in parliment as development. Graduates romming the streets yet increasing numbers of expats doing jobs that can be done by zambian grads. another 5 for MMD ? i dont think so.
Issues of this nature usually have potential to boomerang.
Otherwise it clearly shows that PF are psychologically beaten and scared of clean contest with RB.