Emmanuel Mwamba Suspends Four government Officials involved in Barotse Protests

1. But wasnt it Sata who promised the restoration of the BA once PF resumes power ? Not everyone’s memory is as short. This matter could go as far as the international courts given the issues involved. And that campaign video of Sata promising restoration of the BA will clearly prove that the PF Gvt had admitted the existence and validity of the Agreement – morality of the story: be careful what you say during campaign rallies. It could catch up with you.

   • Having studied the BA of 1964 and listening to the deliberations of the BRE council, I now understand why KK was always frivolous about his One Zambia One Nation slogan.
     He unilaterally abrogated the terms of the BA of 1964. Mr Mwamba is the wrong person to handle these matters. Let KK and Sata speak out and tell us the truth and bring healing in the land. Righteous people honor their word in all agreements!

   • @DimWit
     its good you read and understood, i have said before, this calls of cool heads, wisdom and a health dialogue,, there will no need for seperation

     Or maybe not,, like most other people want…all Lozis must be jailed or all shot dead.. so that ONE zambia ONE nation is maintained

   • The people in Western province have no business using violence.
     If they break the Law they must be jailed, whether President Sata
     promised them the Barotseland Agreement or not.

   • Whatever the case, the Barotseland agreement does not talk about secession. And as things stand, there is only one, unitary state, Zambia. The Barotseland agreement is about creating
     one Unitary state and administrative powers to the Litunga and his inner circle. The only way to go is to decentralize and the Litunga given a say in that decentralization set up in western privunce so he may participate in its governance.PEN DOWN.

   • Haven’t you heard of ‘donchi kubeba’? Or don’t you know what it means?

   • This issue canot be and will not be entertained by the inernational community because it does not rpresent the views of all the poeple of western province.Linyunga Ndambo is an illegal organisation which does not have the blessings of most Lozis.The youths and who are being incited to revolt dont know the likely outcome of their actions and are being misled by a few selfish individuals with selfish motives.Wetern province does not belong to only one tribe but to all the tribes and people who live there and as such it is folly to think that the Linyunga Ndambo represents the views of all the people in western province.This is against the law and treasonable.Those arrested should be charged with unlaw assembly,treason and be sent to jail for many years so that others learn a lesson

   • @ Waht a life!!
     You say that the International community will not entertain this issue. How come the African Union found a prima facie case against Zambia over this same case? This case is right now being entertained and looked at by the International Community, such as the African Union. Lets just face reality, as a nation and that way we will solve this issue before it escalates beyond our control.

   • But you lozis also Your mbuyas Tongas told you not to vote for Sata the guy is crooked you didn’t listen . Now see what your vote had done to this country, you aided a runatic to be the president and mwamba his fellow Bemba now is harassing you in your own country

   • Never ever trust a BEMBA, once a BEMBA always a BEMBA

   • Let the western province vote on the motion of separating, that is democracy. Why hold a unitary state against people’s will. Slavery should not be bad only when practiced by others, even when us Zambians hold a grouping against its will. Otherwise for once people should act maturely and ask westerners representatives why they are not happy to remain part of Zambia and resolve problems.

   • @1.2 Ndobo, good comment.
     However, breaking a law is easy and most people are just stupid.
     How can a transparent organization and positions to represent citizens conduct meetings and declarations at a private house of a school teacher? Why didn’t meet in a –
     – School assembly all
     – a church
     – a hospital ground
     – a town hall
     – a Post Office
     Some public institution, where people will laugh at you and praise you at same time.

2. never trust a lozi and a tonga

   • Arrest and cage all those involved in Barotseland protests.

   • Great comments!!!!. never trust Lozis, so KILL them all..so the you live in peace with people you can trust

   • Ya, like a white man says never trust a nigger, right? Bembas how does if feel to think low of others? Don’t blame the white man when he plays racism, you are just the same when you have a chance. Why generalize all tongas and Lozis. You claim to be the superior beings in Zambia, yet even though your kind is in power, you can’t deliver. What a people.

3. The PS should be arrested. He stole tax payers money with FTJ Chiluba. Could he be the PF FUNDER? Leave the Lozis alone you twit.

4. But does the agreement say you should have your own country? Ah! These pipo shud be caged for a long time!

   • Don’t you think that the Lozis already had their own country? Otherwise if it was (already) one, why did we have to come together and sign an agreement such as BA1964? KK is deceitful and he must pay the price. He can’t just be receiving defectors. As first President, he MUST tell the nation the truth. I pray that he never dies until he explains why the abrogation.

5. I guess Mwamba is doing a very good Job in western province,,, JAIL all the lozis, KILL them ALL!! its health for Zambia

   • Ndobo,
     Thats what everyone here is trying to avoid, Killing and jailling our people, none is refering to them as Lozis, they are Zambians who deserve an equal chance and opportunity in life like everybody else. Whatever the president may have promised should not be an excuse for mischief, how many presidents have we had and what million promises have they fullfield? Go to Kasama Ndobo you will see the same suffering as in Livingstone, go to Lusaka chawama, mandevu etc, there are people living on nothing, but do the take arms and gather people to revolt against their leaders cos they didnt give them that job they promised?
     This is mushrooming out of hate these guys have for Sata and quiet frankly cos they think he is Bemba and they cant accept that fact!

   • The government is doing a recomendable job by giving it the massive ear it needs, we dont want our future president from senanga to be killed, to be handicaped due to wars caused by selfish men whose children are shielded somewhere! The victims are people like the man who was taking his oath in the jungle with elemphants as his witnesses, hehehehhe not funny though…, believe me you it is worthless, call for dialogue like you and many others have suggested, let our president tell these guys that there is no way they will divide our God given land just because they arrived first from somewhere, no one bought any land from God or whoever it is.
     Deze is gewoon onzin!( This is just bu****s***t for an axcuse)!

   • @cindy,, Look those people are not acting out like that because Sata is bemba or they think Sata is bemba NO! lets put facts straight here! That baroste agreement is largely a historical document, some selfish people are trying to get poor people involved,, right!! Attached to that documents are people`s emotions, naviety, st.upidity, illiteracy, some intelligence,,,etc. This is a chance of a health dialogue with lozis not linyunga ndambo to put this issue to bed once and for all, this is also why i said this cool heads and wisdom.. solomon`s wisdom!!,, this is not a small thing,, there are bigger players behind this.. the only who is inactive is Fred mmembe at the moment hes still in love with Sata,,Let that relationship break you wil see how the post will push baroste thing!

   • @cindy
     I guess maybe you are right cindy NO NEED FOR DIALOGUE especially with the Lozis.. let the zambia army just order them around KILL those Lozis bastards,,, wow!!… problem solved, then cool people of zambia will live happily ever after in paradise

   • Let me ask you straight……, what do you think should be done now that we have a situation? I mean….., forget about all the promises the president made, forget about the Bemba or tribal excuse, just tell it up straight like it is, how should this problem be tackled?

   • straight answer.. engage the lozis (i mean lozi on the ground) into a dialogue make them understand,, Sata has the information gathered by Roger chongwe ok, let him pass it to KK and those lozi reps(mr wina) who were there during the signing of the agreement, ok..Let KK and lozi representatives go to western and explain why the agreement was done away with and why its important to still be in unity as zambians… there alot of mis imformation on the ground and people are easily following that!! besides we´ve alot of elders who can help
     And Sata must apologise then we all move forward!!
     At the moment your uncle mwamba is not helping much he is slapping information out of every jim and jack about that man who was being sworn in…
     And l can tell this has generate alot of tribal hate

   • Ndobo,
     OK.., you have touched some important issue their but i dont think we should go back to engaging the old man KK and other third parties, i for one would ask the president to do his job as the head of this nation, bring the culprits before the law, inverstigate thoroughly as to who their finaciers are, clamp down on that hate radio station Barotse,engage the village in some kind of couselling for they have been indoctrinated and let them know that “My uncle Mwamba”, is a fellow zambian, humanbeing, thier brother african thick black like us all who is their to work with them just like any other “Lozi” official in any other province. By the way i dont like your emphasis on Lozi this the Lozis that, that is not a good sign you alienate them, why dont you just refer to them as…

   • @cindy
     Ok,last one..“By the way i dont like your emphasis on Lozi this the Lozis that, that is not a good sign you alienate them, why dont you just refer to them as…“

     i hear you, you know what… those groups like linyunga ndambo donot represent all lozis.. that point point was trying to stress hence my the lozi emphasis..and am also lozi you know,

     sorry if that offended you or affect you in any other way. Just maybe zambia must delete that word lozi..kekekekek, mass kill all those people called by that word.. might be better a place to live in

   • Just on that refrence of “The Lozis”, suppose you had a child with a Bemba, would you refer to that child “BembaLozi?” exactly my point, how do you feel when someone mark you? these are the small things which get thicker and bring about issues later, i bet they are now refering to “my uncle Mwamba”, all sorts of tribal names, kimasholi, manyukuyuku etc, hehehehehehehe, seems innocent but the roots go deeper, you should be an ambassador for our people, you speak with them and preach peace, you are educated and exposed, you know the ills and fate of tribalism, tell the truth well painfull but logic and real, what is your role in this? so i suggest you get over it and direct them forward and not backwards.

   • @cindy
     in fact i have a child with a bemba lady back in zambia..my daughter´s name is mwaba,, name after my mother in law, MHSRIP she was good to me,,even if her daughter was a wierdo

   • Ndobo,
     see now……, you have BembaLozi kanshi? hehehehehehhe, we are all related one way or the other, i just dont know why we cant get along, anyway sooner than later we shall all be smilling as zambians and forget about the brushings we’ve been bruising against each other.
     Lets just kuichaila fye.

6. Sata must resign for havin promisst . I was there when he made the pronouncement. He is th culprit.

7. Do you remember the story of a place which was carring politicians crashed in a farm? The same day police came to the scene and found the farmer who they asked what happened and where was the plane, the farmer said I burried it then the police were shocked and said are you sure there were no suvivers? The farmer said well, I heard a few guys screaming we are still alive still alive. Then the police said y did you burry it then? The farmer said I couldn’t beleave them because politicians are liers. This all thing nid proper dialog.

8. Mwamba should be careful.He will be killed.A kaliloze could be on its way.Pasopo.

9. Please baSata give the lozis their freedom, so that we forget about this issue for good. Its like these people are determined to govern themselves. infact I came propose that zambia is split because we are hearing stories of one region is sidelined in development and yet all areas of zambia are not that developed with exception of CB and Lusaka.

10. When it suits them , Linyunga ndambo( shake your neighbour) was a legal organisation! President Sata went to Mongu and claimed that he was Linyunga ndambo as well. This is the same organisation which stoned and disrupted ADD President CHARLES MILUPI ‘s rally at Blue Gums in Mongu! PF and Linyungandambo are bed fellas! They worked together to discredit) and MMD in Western Province! Afumba Mombotwa is a PF front,planted to disrupt the pending Judgement in 9weeks time from AU! Real men like former Ngambela Clement Sinyinda are quite! He has written appeal letters to SADC,AU and UN. He is doing so in a legal,mature and diplomatic manner! We are too intelligent for the ‘babish’ schemes!!

11. I need help here. Why is a PS one to champion these issues and not the provincial minister? Is this a policy or political matter? I thought it borders on security that is fundamentally a national issue whose out look and approach must be national and hence a minister. I could be wrong.

12. Are the security men from prisons or are they the chief’s security men? just call Mongu Batotseland and these guys will be happy and we will solve this Barotse issue. put it in the new constitution.

13. The BA belongs to the archives of history just like any other agreement in history.It’s will remain buried in history text books.Move on people, if we had to dwell on the past, we usually can not develop or change.By the way I am a modern Lozi guy who believes in the global village not a section of land like the shaka days of claiming land.We are no longer looking for grazing land like the Tuareg or like what goes on Sudan which is an exception because it borders on race.

14. Someone with knowledge to educate me. What is the difference between restoration of Barotseland agreement and secession?

    • But Zoona uli cikopo.

      What are dictionaries for? who do you want to task with that foolish question?

      RESTORATION; Is to cause a situation or practice to exist again.
      SECESSION :This is a formal break away from a larger group of people or country so that you start governing yourselves.

15. Zambia will never be separated to please a few Lozi tribalists no matter what.

    We suggest however, that Western Province should be divided into two smaller provinces so that those who want to worship an old document called the BA64 can be in one province and other law abiding Zambians can continue to enjoy peace in Kafue Province.

    One Zambia One Nation.

16. cant wait for a referendum, these suckers will lose even in WP, and if they win let them go. one zambia one nation

17. ‘Western Province consists of 38 ethnic groupings most of them enjoying distinct culture and language’! Mwamba please stop lying through your teeth. Barotseland is a cultural melting point. There aren’t 38 distinct cultures. Have you met anyone speaking siSubiya, siTotela, siKalanga, siNyengo, sikwengo, sifwe etc? Barotseland is a largely detribalised region. The majority of the people don’t speak their mother tongues which are now extinct. They now speak a SeSotho dialect called Silozi or Sikololo as their lingua franca. Silozi is a common language that belongs to all. Even the Litunga clan have accepted it as the regional language despite their mother tongue been Siluyana. The next time you are at the palace dear Mwamba ask the Indunas to talk to you in their Siluyana mother tongue.

    • Do not be ignorant. Mwamba is right. The Nkoyas in Kaoma have unique language and culture. The Mbundas also have distinct culture and language. What about Luvales in Lukulu? And the kwamashis in Shamgombo? Why are there demands fr recognition by all these groups to have their own chiefs and resist chiefs sent by the Litunga. And by the way read the Barotse Agreement of 1964. Its an innocent document and no harm will be done if it was implemented. But the calls fr secession are different

    • Western Province is not a melting tribal pot other than fr few ethnic tribes that formed ruling class. Do not be ignorant. Mwamba is right. The Nkoyas in Kaoma have unique language and culture. The Mbundas also have distinct culture and language. What about Luvales in Lukulu? And the kwamashis in Shamgombo? Why are there demands fr recognition by all these groups to have their own chiefs and resist chiefs sent by the Litunga. And by the way read the Barotse Agreement of 1964. Its an innocent document and no harm will be done if it was implemented. But the calls fr secession are different

    • Sepeso
      How about the lambas? Kaondes who i know they fall under barotse teritory do they speak silozi. This issue requires level headedness and not emotions, suppressions and intimidation. We have cross bred especially in the urban.

    • @Sinyembo Kenneth, do you understand English? I said the majority of people don’t speak their mother tongues! I didn’t say there are no Nkoya, Mbunda, or Luyi speakers?
      The only ‘people’ who want their ‘own’ chief is Induna Mutondo and his rented gang. I gather the chief spokesman of this group one Nkomeshya passed away. And his PF sponsors never even bothered with his funeral. His family think he was selfishly used by PF. I haven’t heard from the Totela, Mbukushu, Humbe, Nyengo, makwengo, subiya that they want their own Chief.
      And by the way I am not overly concerned with the Barotse Agreement. For me what needs to be done is to have a proper democratic decentralised system and equitable distribution of development resources to all the provinces of Zambia.

    • @ Chibs, at the signing of the Barotse Agreement, Barotseland only applied to what is today called Western Province. Between 1964 and 1969 Western Province was known as Barotseland. Kaunda changed the name to Western Province after he abrogated or cancelled the Barotse Agreement in 1969. kaondes and lambas have never been part of Barotseland. That is just nonsense people like you like peddling!

18. Shimfumu,Restoration means according the Litunga on behalf of the people of Barotseland certain rights and privileges which are ‘enshrined’ in the Barotse Agreement of 1964.Secession means Barotseland reverts to its original status before 1964. In other words Barotse land and Northern Rhodesia get into a Marriage(Zambia).In that marriage Barotseland is promised certain privileges which were not fulfilled! Now Barotseland is pushing for a divorce! in this case secession means Zambia breaks up into Barotseland and Northern Rhodesia!!

    • I would love to have our own North_ East Rhodesia with Fort-Jame son as a capital city. Let these quacks with a country go back to TANZANIA

    • Sepiso

      I thot you were not going to be emotional. We need to educate each other with reasons. You are behaving like the kaponyas you turn physical when thay are presented with facts. Read the agreement then you will argue with facts. You are just ranting.

19. The nine Zambian citizens who have been arrested and detained in Malaysia and Thailand for drug trafficking related offences as well as alleged use of fake passports brings in question the role and use of government.
    Zambia has no serious government going by the conduct of its leaders. No serious government can go about bragging and happily announcing the intended hanging of its own citizens. It should be a sobering experience to note that our own citizens and women for that matter are on the threshold of being executed in a foreign country.
    The most this government can do is just to announce the despicable act of hanging them and releasing their passport profile and do-nothing more.
    The leverage in the arms of government is for the purposes of helping to secure and arm twist foreign g

    • No *****a takes drugs to this countries!Every body knows that .I believe this women were taken advantage of because of their ignorance.Most important thing to do now is to get the message to people so that they do not fall prey to drug pushers!No one cerebrates the death of another human being.It is sad really especially that they are cremated and their ashes are send in small boxes via DHL.Please warn your daughters to recheck supposed business opportunities with unscrupulous individuals!

20. Ifyabupuba fye.

21. This issue is complex, if anything…the Lozi should put Sata at task for whatever talking blues he did.

22. I have given you land.

23. Secesion is treason undr Zambian law.Zambia is a unitary state no question abt it.Do u find secesion in BAgrement?No!Why kupusa so?Perpetratrs & financiers in soup red soup tht is.DPP is on course & judicial system re workng…

    • There’s no SECESSION neither is their ABROGATION! Now sit down and talk!

24. Barotse Agreement of 1964 is now a public document. Please read it.its not different fm the current Decentralisation Policy. Do not lie. Read it. Secession is a new thing. Stop lying that two states formed Zambia. Zambia and its boundaries have never changed since 1884 when Africa was partitioned. Nabulyato was a member of parliament fr Western Province from 1954-1963. Explain that. And the British protectorates in Africa are well knwn. However Barotseland is not 9ne of them

    • Kenneth between 1954-1963 what was known as Western Province is what is now known as the Copperbelt Province.
      Following the abrogation of the Barotse Agreement Kaunda renamed Barotseland as Western Province in 1969.
      Barotseland only became part of Zambia through the Barotse Agreement signed by Mwanawina II, King of Barotseland, Kenneth Kaunda Prime Minister of Barotseland, and Mr Sandys British Govt Foreign and Colonial office official.
      Why was it necessary for these people to append their signatures to this document if Barotseland never existed?

    • Sepiso please. Nabulyato was MP fr Western Province. Its basic knowledge hw many province Northern Province had. And Western Province didn’t extend to CB. Sepiso like many of u confuse the boundaries signed between Litunga and BSA Com0any in 1890. Like every mineral exploration boundaries it includes vast areas. Many Lozi wish to use it as boundaries fr Barotseland…the Litunga enjoyed protection

    • Sinyembo you are the one that is confused.
      The Northern Rhodesia provinces between 1954-1963 (the time Nabulyato was Member of the legislative Council) were as follows:
      1. Northwestern Province as it is today.
      2. North Eastern Province ( later split by Kaunda into Northern and Luapula Provinces)
      3. Central Province later split by Kaunda into Central and Lusaka Provinces.
      4. Southern Province as it is today.
      5. Eastern Province as it is today.
      6.Western Province renamed Copperbelt Province by Kaunda in 1969.
      Lastly there was the Autonomous region or protectorate of Barotseland (whatever you wish to call it) This region became the new Western Province in 1969.
      Please read the history of your country. Kaunda is still alive he will be happy to explain things to you.

    • Sinyembo this should be a no brainer. Since Barotseland was not Western Province at the time Nabulyato was a member of the legislative council, he could only have been an MP for what is now Copperbelt Province which was then Western Province. Therefore, Sepiso is right. I grew-up in the then Barotseland and participated in the 1964 elections when Barotseland was still Barotseland. The renaming of the region to Western Province and that of then Western Province to Copperbelt Province can only be credited to Kenneth Kaunda, much later during his tenure.

25. People in government should stop being arrogant over this matter. Just own up and sit around a table and resolve the impasse. If educated civil servants are getting involved, it simply shows that this problem will not disappear soon. Mwamba is a wrong chap to handle such issues becoz he is biased.

26. Bloggers,ask yourself why is it that the Litunga is the only Paramount Chief with a Diplomatic Passport,apart from chief Mukuni who was given for ‘tourism reasons?’ The issue was raised in the Zambian Parliament and the Minister of Home Affairs at the time(MMD) said it for historic reasons! Bane don’t just yap and parrot things that you don’t know! Law is Law! Secession is treasonable under our laws but the wise people of Barotseland are saying ‘reverting to our original status’ which is legal! Kenneth Kaunda is there,Britain is there why insult each other on things you don’t know about! The UNIP govt hide these details from the zambian schools curriculum. People were arrested under Kaunda over the same BA 64 and jailed! The issue came up under FTJ and money was used to silence the…

27. TREASON! Very serious offence. If everyone in Zed, decided they will declare where they live, or their property as an independent state, we will end up with a Kantemba Balkanised/ Fragmented nation like Somalia, where every section & ward is an independent Gun toting nation. So if you think you have problems under P.F, this will be the MOTHER of all Problems. So to anyone contemplating fragmenting Zambia I say to our defence forces” Bamba, & faka mu Jele”
    No Parole or Bail chapwa!!!

28. This BA 64 will never rest until we as a nation address its contents. It is real. Zambia came into being after Barotseland agreed to join Northern Rhodesia in 1963. Insults on the blog are not productive. Let us address issues. And in this case like one blogger said, the UK which granted independence is there and so is Wina and Kaunda. The matter will not end through arrests and threats. Look at how long and bloody the road was for East Timor, Eriteria, South Sudan and just across at Chobe, the Sedudu island. Pen down!

29. The fight for statehood cannot forever be suppressed. It has never been done and never will be. And yet a people can agree to live as part of an agreed state. Therefore, let us engage our Lozi compatriots. This BA 64 will never rest until we as a nation address its contents. It is real. Zambia came into being after Barotseland agreed to join Northern Rhodesia in 1963. Insults on the blog are not productive. Let us address issues. And in this case like one blogger said, the UK which granted independence is there and so is Wina and Kaunda. The matter will not end through arrests and threats. Look at how long and bloody the road to statehood was for East Timor, Eriteria, South Sudan and just across at Chobe, the Sedudu island. Dialogue and not war is the answer!

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    • There’s no need to break up the country. Linyungandambo are a small group they don’t represent the majority views of the Barotse!

      By the way, usually it is criminals who like breaking up stuff for spares! Where and from who did you steal the Diahatsu Pyzer?

31. That nonsense can bring divisions,Next it can be eastern province after Bembaland then no Zambia.. another Somalia! please cage those who are eating sponsored money. They want to bring anarchy. Former Shushus involved slaughter them without taking them to court. They think they are more wiser and can speak on my behalf as a lozi. My father is Lozi and my mum a Bemba.Therefore, i will never accept that foolishness.

32. This is not about the LOZI. It is about the Barotseland agreement. Neither is it about secession. The ‘clamour’ for secession from some quarters has only come about as a result of frustration (the non-implementation of the agreement and lack of development in the province through the successive govts.)
    The agreement was part of the negotiations for Zambia’s independence. That in spite of the fact that the country would be a unitary state, the Litunga would still be allowed control and power over most aspects in the land. There is a list of those things in the agreement (it includes power to decide who can set up businesses, what kind of business, administration, court system e.t.c.) Otherwise, without the promise of this power, Barotseland would not have ‘joined’ Zambia in 1964.

33. Mr. Sepiso u are factually wrong. Ive just been reading Nabulyatos book. He was an Mp fr Western Province based in Mongu. Also google fr basic facts

    • Which Nabulyato’s book is that?

34. Bane bapelenifye icalo baikalile ,Sata who promised the restoration of the BA ,ifyakwipayana no kufyenga abanenu Lesa tatemwa.

    • viva nayoto

35. Copperbelt has never been Western Province. Ots always been knw as Copperbelt frm as far back as 1924-1935

    • You are wrong. A 1941 map of the region you now call Zambia shows the following provinces: Northern, Eastern, Central, Southern, Western (now Copperbelt), Northwestern and a semi-autonomous region called: Barotseland. I have the map in my possession right now. And 1941 is after your 1935.

36. Please google any Governors Annual Report on Northern Rhodesia from 1935

37. BA mwamba watch out! You maybe some kind of a trap there ka! Remember how you were fought wen you were appointed. Meembe is vindictive and hateful. Ukwali insoke takwafwile Bantu tata. Nga BA Minister balikwi?

38. As a nkoya i find this issue quite interesting.The idea behind the breakaway is absurd and egoistic bred by the lies and arrogance of politicians.But now that we are in this mess,Why can’t we have a referendum to find out how many in western province support seccession?If some sections of western province are not happy with PF why are they holding the whole country at ransom,why can’t our leaders use dialogue unlike chasing old men round the province and end up killing them as it happened in the past?
    I don’t think breaking the country on the basis of tribe makes sense.lets learn from sudan and Eritrea and solve our problems as brothers.Politicians come and go and a nation remains.you hear enu bakampunze!

    • Zambia was hatched in dishonest and Kenneth Kaunda is too proud to admit this reality. Consequently, a resolution of the Barotseland issue is a toll order. May the gods intervene.

39. Ichalo chabanani iwe ka nayoto?bt kwena iwe uli kapuba,ngefyo wayamba ukusabaila?Zambia is a unitary state & no part of it will b separated,get that in your THICK SKULLS,dats jus sumthin abt lozi’s they r so selfish and stingy,we hav enjoyed peace 4 a very long tym and nw sum dumb ass jus wakes up & says he wnts 2 b independent,dats y I personally want all thoz bustards killed whetha lozi,bemba,tonga as long as you hav evil intentions of fragmentin our beloved country.Dats why being a DICTATOR is necessary @ times.koz abantu bamo bomfwila pa nkanda

40. Yats and sepiso your quarel is prophetic .Hmmm so Lyunga ndambo or BRE and PF are car breakers spilling oil on the road so that the car can flip over and then dash for spares.Hehe:-)zambia being the car!!poor Zambia;-(

41. BRE is just a treaty like another signed for the establishment of USA, Canada, Brazil, Mexico and others. Forming a government within a government is a very wrong approach. First is that group must make public its proposals and not in hiding; debated for. They can apply to a legal entity as a political party and see if the people in western Province can vote for them. Then enter into some other agreement just like what has made Hong Kong part of China. Say something 100 years of existence within Zambia with minimum powers to BRE then in 2064 demand a UN supervised referendum that can allows for greater autonomy for say another 50 years of co-existence and then decide thereafter. Here wee are talking about another 150 years of the existence of Zambia

42. Those Linguandos whatever they call them should sit down and think carefully about the consequences. Assume they attain the autonomy and register themselves as BRE citizens. Now you have some people who still identify themselves as Lozi elsewhere in Zambia who have property, businesses, and families and would never imagine themselves settling in Shangombo so they decide to stay in Zambia. Now, all it will only take is one, not two or three but only one disgruntled Zambian to start a revolution. In Tunisia it took ONE student, remember? Rwanda genocide involved a few tribal minded people to start one of the worst mass killing in living memory. Once these disgruntled characters decide to rid the rest of Zambia of any BRE they would wish they never started the whole thing.

    • @ Hola: Hey Hola you may want to know that there are more Sothos in South Africa than you will find in Lesotho. And yet Lesotho is an autonomous state. There are more Mexicans living in Los Angeles than you will find living in any city in Mexico outside of Mexico City. The world is becoming one big village. Your ideas of moving to Shangombo are untenable.

43. Can someone plz help me to identify a line on the published Barotse agreement where it staes that BRE shall break away from Zambia apart from decentraliisation of power. Somalia, Rwanda and many more have been in such situations becoz of something like what the Lozi’s wants to start. Twakana!

44. @Amukwelyanisa I agree with you concerning those established. My concern is if this matter is allowed to escalate it will bring about repercussions. In this situation it will be difficult to please all parties and as always the case the majority wins. My concern is those neutral Lozi people who might find themselves persecuted in Zambia if they choose not to go to the BRE if it gets established. One selfish act by a tribal group will only stir up more selfishness in the other majority group which in turn will result in chaos. It is like a couple planning to divorce. Before you see a family lawyer you first have to consider and calculate the cost. Am I going to be better off? What about my children? Pride or stability?

    • @Hola: That’s at best only a scarecrow. Sudan is right now having to learn it the hard way, having lost a substantial share of its natural resources. Already, there is a large presence of foreigners in Zambia. You don’t have to be a Zambian to make it in Zambia or in any other country for that matter. The “retaliation” idea is repugnant. At best it won’t fly. Look at what happened to the Jews in Persia during the days of Mordecai and Queen Esther. Or why is the mighty United States of America having to bend to accommodate illegals? Further, how well, would you say has xenophobia worked in South Africa? So, the tribal “retaliation” you allude to is simply a grand idea in the sky. Zambians must simply accept reality, sit down and address this matter, fully and completely.

45. iam trigger hungry and iam about to go to mongu. anyone supporting this nonsense i will give them a second belly button. the agreenment doesnt talk about seperating. dialogue wont work. those that are in jail castrate them or electricute their balls,this will be considered rural electrification. i can make some of them desapear. hungry crocks in the zambezi can enjoy some linyungandambo meat.

46. Anyway! Lozi’s are indeed selfish tribe! Even where they are, u can see that they are people who are full of themselves. Worse if a company CEO is a Lozi then expect eni-sha to be a greeting! Plz, we don’t want civil war in Zambia. Nkoya’s and other tribes will not seat idle as that’s their province as well and they have come out in the open that they are not for the idea.

47. Eish! Lozis are potential trouble makers. Loving Zambians lets annihilate these creeps softly with potessium cynide before their evil roots gets hold and destroy our lovley zambia.

48. Lesa is a umone!

49. Manyukunyuku fela! Cage ’em boys!

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