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HH “OP” remarks reckless – MMD

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Raphael Nakacinda MMD Spokesperson
Raphael Nakacinda MMD Spokesperson

Movement for Multi-party Democracy (MMD) Spokesperson Mr. Raphael Nakacinda has said the statement by United Party for National Development (UPND) President Hakainde Hichilema that he controls the Zambia intelligence services (popularly known as “OP”) is extremely reckless and irresponsible. Speaking on “The Interview” programme on Pan African radio on Thursday 25th February 2015, he said the remarks have the potential of causing instability and insecurity in the nation.

He said Mr Hichilema was inciting anarchy by splitting the loyalties of the Intelligence services and other security wings that are supposed to aid and be loyal to the sitting president. Mr. Nakacinda said the remarks are not befitting of one vying for the Republican presidency. He said if indeed Mr. Hichilema was the one controlling the intelligence system and receives the daily national intelligence briefs before President Edgar Lungu, he should keep that information to himself rather than alarm the nation.

He said the security wings of the nation are supposed to be answerable to the Head of State and no other person and the claim that some security officers are not loyal to the president but to Mr. Hichilema is extremely dangerous as it suggests Mr. Lungu is not in full control of the security apparatus of the nation.

When asked about developments in the MMD, Mr. Nakacinda said he is happy that progress has been made in bringing order to the party after the recent confusion that saw the party split into three factions just before the recent Presidential by-election. He said that most of the National Executive Committee (NEC) members and MPs who were facing disciplinary action have submitted themselves to a Disciplinary Committee headed by Dr. Peter Machungwa that was constituted by the NEC meeting of 31st January 2015. He said the committee has also played the role of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission and among those that have already appeared before it are the MPs Michael Kaingu, Mtolo Phiri, Elijah Muchima and Isaac Banda.

He said even the former National Chairman Kabinga Pande recently made an effort to meet with MMD President Dr. Nevers Mumba, who in turn referred him to the disciplinary committee. Some from among the twenty expelled members have already approached the MMD President and party leadership seeking to have their expulsions reconsidered.

Mr Nakacinda said the people appearing before the committee have expressed great pain at the dismal performance of the MMD in the presidential election held on 20th January 2015. He said the committee is uncovering a lot of important information about what really happened to the party owing to the confusion caused by the re-entry of former President Rupiah Banda and the uncertainty over the talks of a possible alliance with UPND.

“I must commend Honorable Kaingu. As a mark of leadership and commitment to his party, he appeared before the Disciplinary committee to answer charges over his support and participation in the campaigns on the platform of another political party. Out of his submissions recommendations will be made to the National Executive Committee,” he said.

Mr. Nakacinda further said insinuations that MMD had compromised itself by cooperating with the PF Government were incorrect because President Lungu has been respectful to MMD in the way he consulted Dr. Mumba before appointing Hon. Michael Kaingu and Vincent Mwale as ministers. The two MPs contacted Dr. Mumba to seek his blessing before accepting their appointments.

Mr. Nakacinda said this is not new as MMD had previously tried to dialogue with the late President Michael Sata to offer the best MMD MPs to be ministers but he appointed different ones with impunity, ignoring the leadership of the party.

Asked to comment on the brutal murder of a UPND sympathizer by suspected PF cadres, he said the development is extremely unfortunate and political cadres should be educated not to view those that hold divergent views as enemies. He urged President Lungu to strongly condemn the killing and called upon the police to be professional and ensure that the culprits are brought to book, even if they belong to the ruling party.

Responding to a question on President Lungu’s remarks that those opposed to his leadership should leave the country, Mr. Nakacinda cautioned the President against being temperamental in handling issues affecting the people of Zambia. He said Mr. Lungu’s statement was unacceptable and advised him to develop a thick skin to help him better handle criticism as this is expected of a Republican President.

75 COMMENTS

    • Nakachinda is the last person I would take any thing his confused mouth would say seriously.

      If he had information about PF planning to import terrorist to decimate all opposition parties in Zambia including MMD, would he keep quiet?

      I think Nakachinda as a f00l would surely keep quiet instead of warning the people to stay alert.

      MMD is a finished party . Even its third positon was taken over by FDD. Just imagine that!

      So nakachinda should concentrate on commenting on the confusion still high in MMD and leave UPND out of his confusion.

    • What do you expect from a man who has never been in Government before, and does not understand the implications of his aspiration to be President of a country?

    • Desperate people resort to desperate measures.

      Ichilema has now proved beyond any reasonable doubt that he is an under 5, a political upstart, a demagogue and an unconscionable opportunist.

      Come next year the people will show him who is in charge as they make him complete his first term of loses (a loss for every year of presidency).

      The kid should never be allowed anywhere near the corridors of institutions of power.

    • Leave HH alone he knows what he is talking about. You are the one who is trying to paint a picture which is not there. What kind of parallel structure are you talking about. OP are mature and professionals who are smarter than you and understand state issues better.

    • Quote: ” Hichilema was inciting anarchy by splitting the loyalties of the Intelligence services and other security wings that are supposed to aid and be loyal to the sitting president.”

      “the remarks are not befitting of one vying for the Republican presidency.”

      Anyone Supporting HH after this and on this, he/she is just a blind supporter and doesn’t even know why he/she is a UPND cadre. Zombilike for sure- or like a victim of hypnotism

    • What is HH to do if you have a president who tells people to leave Zambia if they dont agree with him. You need intelligence briefing to protect yourself.

      Even Moses and Joshua had spies before fighting an enemy. Every organization needs intelligence information to strategize itself

    • What is happening in Zambia is a clear case of what God can do to a hypocritical nation. For a number of years now, Zambian was portrayed a Christian nation, they even included a line in the Zambian constitution. And yet this is a country whose people are filled with tribalism, nepotism, corruption, and what God has done is to remove the veil to expose the true picture of what Zambia is. If you met some of these tribalists on Sunday and see how they worship, you would think you have met classy people, and yet its the opposite. The inside of these people is a different story. They are rotten with tribalism!!!!

  1. Any sensible citizen puts the safety of the Nation above everything. Would this thing called HH allow such if he were the sitting President? His followers are like one who looks or behaves like an automaton or zombie. They support this nonsense like flies following a corpse to grave.

    • @Ndaje,
      You are just a simpleton without any political sense. HH’s statement is a viable political statement to curtail the potentially tragic antics of spineless EL.

    • I just had that thought… it seems political supporters in Zambia these days do not even have the ability to reason and offer criticism to their leadership – its no wonder we have nincompoops like HH holding positions of leadership with very little grey matter. When something is wrong, its wrong and we need to criticise it as the citizenry, I was a supporter of UPND and to be honest, the man just lost my vote, he is so power hungry he wants it by any means necessary, even at the expense of this country. No. No person should ever place power in the hands of one so desperate. We must offer criticism to Edgar Lungu, HH, Mumba/RB, KK, Nawakwi, Chipimo etcetera, its not hate, its the reality least individuals start believing they are demi gods – HH is a classic example.

    • @ Tubulu 2.1. I don’t know what level of education you have otherwise you cannot support what the real simpleton called HH uttered. In other countries including the USA HH would by now be in the hands of the CIA. He is lucky he is in Zambia and not South Africa, Swaziland, Angola or Zimbabwe because by now ngali pa kampelwa hanging from his balls.

    • WHAT DOES THIS CHAP CALLED HH KNOWS ABOUT RUNNING A COUNTRY? ZAMBIANS BECARE DONT VOTE FOR THIS CHILDISH CHAP. NEVER MUMBA IS SO MATURE THAN THIS CHAP. COME ON UPND REPLACE THIS MAN WHO IS A DANGER TO ZAMBIA.

    • mutale mwana, what do you mean sorting out HH? Ulichima!! 2016 is soon,sort him out if you mean it Ours is Barotse. That’s our second option. Chilima ove wakuhona mangana.

  2. Icilema’s irresponsible utterances would under normal circumstances induce a witch-hunt, ferreting out every Tonga-type operative. This is precisely the trap Icilema is wishing to lay for the government, so that tomorrow he can go on an anthill and cry ‘persecution’. A very irresponsible and quite unpatriotic fellow, this Icilema!

    • VIVA WHAT? YOUR HH WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF ZAMBIA. MAY BE UPND WITH A DIFFERENT PERSON AS PRESIDENT NOT HICHILEMA

  3. What you do unto others is what you should expect. Where people have no conscience they can do anything. Sad that there seems to be no fear of God when doing or saying things. Do people have any shame in them? NO . But all should remember that our actions will one day be required to be accounted for by God. Recklessness is evil.

  4. He thinks he is still herding cattle this man. The Ng’ombe in him has not left him.That is why he will never rule this country.

    • He may not rule but he a productive person. Lungu is selling your country for cheap and you are praising him. The money just took a loan for Zimbabwe. He has no clue what he doing. What can a poor minded man do to create wealth. The man is president and minister because he wants to pull 2 salaries. His travelling every week to get travelling allowances. The man can even run a business and he is president of Zambia. Seriously that makes no sense!

  5. I voted for HH,but that statement was reckless indeed.He should not imitate ba SATA’s politics because he very different from him.

    • Some of u little minds don’t understand politics. HH did the right thing so EL should stop his clandestine maneuvers killing innocent people.

  6. Ba fikalah, just calm down! HH is just politicking. Get a life and move on! In politics just like in business or in war, information is power, you need to know your opponent’s plans to help you plan. If HH has access to intelligence reports then he is smart!

    • This is to make the gov think twice when they are making strategies against the opposition. It is wishful thinking to imagine that all people in the security wings are loyal to the govnt of the day. It is very impossible.

  7. The late president Sata used to say the same when he was in opposition. You called him names and yet he went to rule Zambia.

    The government structures have no confidence in the manner the IFINTU NI LUNGU plane has set airborne.

    The PF is a failed goverment and continues to fail.

    The new Harry mwanga Nkhumbula international airport is leaking. What a shame to tourism.

    What is happening to the upgrading of KK airport. Its yet anza white elephant.

    What has happened to the construction of the new Intercity bus terminus in livingstone?

    What is happening to the completion of the modernisation of intercity in lusaka to make it look like pack station in jozi?

    Some of the newly constructed roads under PF are pealing off in just 1 rain season.

    The PF govt has failed bwana.

    • All I can say to you bwana is that Rome was not built in a Day! Things have started, that is important. Maybe PF will not finish them, but Zambians will.

      Do you remember the Merzaf flats in Chilenje? Sata started them, then left them hanging for over 10 years, and they were an eyesore. Today what do you see there? Zambians!!! Home owners!

      How about the Carousel Building, someone started it and for whatever reason it remained incomplete, but today what do you see there? Zambians!!!

      All of us have a duty, don’t just sit back and criticise those who are trying to do something, join in and help, even by offering positive criticism not synical praise, if you know what I mean.

  8. The question should be is EL using the OP for political purposes and if yes he should held accountable.
    The other question should be is HH gaining access to the OP and if yes he should be asked to account for his actions.
    If any of the two is found wanting, Then the law should take its course, OR i almost forgot there is no law in Africa.
    But knowing the IQ of most Zambians is so low, No one will raise these issues but will just be yapping.

    • HH ALL THE WAY, NAFUTI MULEPITILA AND FIND YOURSELF IN MR. MUNKOMBWE’S FARM HOUSE AND START THINKING LIKE YOU ARE IN STATE HOUSE, AND WHEN YOU RECIEVE REPORTS FROM MUNKOMBWE’S HOUSE SERVANT YOU END UP TELLING THE NATION THAT YOU RECIEVE REPORTS FROM THE O.P. KIKIKIKIKIKIKI hh

  9. PF goverment is bankrupt, if not insolvent. It has to be placed under receivership.

    It has no working capital.

    It has reached the borrowing sealing. .

    How will it pay the poor farmer this year mwebantu.????

  10. NAKACHINDA the answer for MMD problems is the convention why are u fearing to call the only organ of the party which can resolve your problems rather than putting kangoroo court headed by the political failure MACHUNGWA, this man NEVERS MUMBA send him to campaign for him in LUAPULA but he just got 1,940 surely how do u blame RB on such votes from yo own region, while RB delivered his region EASTERN to his chosen one. MACHUNGWA, MBULAKULIMA AND CHITIKA are finished politicians in LUAPULA where they come from and u want to impose them to make decisions against other regions that will just kill MMD further. The first person NAVERS MUMBA should reconcile with is RB for the MMD to move forward bcoz this old man has a big following in MMD not ka MACHUNGWA. Politics its about numbers.

  11. He has just put his tribal tongas in op in a tricky situation. He already knows that no senior security officer trusts tongas. i expect more dismissals from of tongas from op.

  12. Security wings of the government should dig deeper to find out if what HH said is true. Any body who will be found wanting should be dealt with ruthlessly. That pronouncement by HH is misplaced and very careless. I think he is trying to show that Edgar Lungu cannot do anything to him! That is far beyond acceptable where an opposition president claims to be in control of government security! Let him explain. Careless talk is dangerous. He should keep what he knows to himself (HH).

  13. This is a wakeup call to PF. They need to put their house in order. Priorities in PF government are upside down. They dwell too much on small personal & selfish issues neglecting issues of nation building & national welfare at large. EL needs to remove useless people appointed simply because they are related or of same tribe to top people in previous government. Make our institutions professional, manned by professionals & Zambians will work professionally – not cadres who only know to insult others. This is splitting our country. Some of us are not used to insults.

  14. I see PF merging with MMD and Mikes party plus Fr Bwalyas and other smaller ones to strengthen further as I again see Rainball party gaining ground and weakening further UPND. iT WOULD BE BETTER FOR upnd TO OPEN THEIR eyes on Rainball. Thankyou Rainball for indirectly helping PF until 2031 when rainball gets the mantle

  15. Intelligent reports will continue to leak out to the opposition. The onus to blame the opposition is self delusion in Zambia where even investors are not certain the direction Zambia is leading to. For a sitting president planning to destabilize opposition parties in a nation is recipe for dictatorship, chaos and anarchy in a nation. The intelligent leakages in such a fearful state will leak to opposing parties in order for correction through debate in the nation. Nakachinda has no morals as a chola boy of Dr Mumba since the time he was president of his defunct party. This restlessness will continue in the nation until majority will vote what they want. Stealing votes, repression or elimination of opposition will not solve any matters.

  16. HH KNOWS WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT AND FOR ME I WOULD SAY IT IS SO SADDENING TO NOTE HOW CORRUPT AND LOOSE OUR OP (OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT INCLUDING OTHER SECURITY WINGS) ARE. IT MUST BE TRUE THAT WHAT HH SAID IS ACTUALLY WHAT HAPPENS CONSIDERING THE HIGH LEVEL OF LEAKED INFORMATION IN ZAMBIA INCLUDING PHONE TAPPING. OUR COUNTRY HAS NO SECURITY WHATSOEVER. TOP SECURITY INFORMATION IS JUST SOLD TO PEOPLE SUCH AS HH ON THE SNAP OF A FINGER. HH THE RECIPIENT OF THIS INFORMATION HAS JUST CONFIRMED IT. IT’S SAD WITH OUR SO CALLED OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT.

  17. I used to support this,i assume human being HH but i have lost faith in him. We may differ politically but playing with any security of the state anywhere in the world is totally unacceptable. This HH is still not matured enough to rule. If he was ruling would he have tolerated this foolish? The remaining supporters should think logically here,do not support blindly and think with your bums.

  18. What a misconception, when one thinks to have such information is fooly. Did you know that the most intelligent opposition leaders have connections even within the rulling parties and this is very health for your own information. It was HH who saved you crooked brains from having some PF cadres trained in Sudan to eliminate the opposition , may be some of them left and were trained , hence all these stories of people being killed by cadres. So interaction with rulling party personnel is a very important thing when you are in opposition, only that may be HH made it open for your own information, but this is a fact. Those of you who know how late SATA operated can bare me witness. So if MMD is not doing this, wake up, this is the inthing in politics lest you all die. Never you frame HH he’s

  19. H H has fallen backwards the MADONNA WAY on this one or is it falling the MUGABE WAY,( ati sokwe kakamuleya katabi
    ).HH is just proving that he is just also a human being . let him just apologise on this .

  20. This kind of thinking and analyzing things can only be found in a cave or backyard. Clear hatred at the expense of the country’s peace and security. in other countries the volunteer of mischief is by now supposed to be caged. Leading a political party does not mean extremism. one should have limits and reservations in dealings. , let us not surely dare the country for that amounts to disturbing the systems orderliness. certain things are very sensitive. Have some people bought Intelligence Officer for information? How do they use that information then? to who do they give and who do they share with? and for what purpose really? Or could this be an act of wanting to create room for crying foul internationally when queezed? lets not put governance institutions alarmed for nothing. lets…

  21. If this volunteered disclosure is true that HH gets intelligence information then the honourable thing for him to do is apologise and withdraw that statement, this time to work not politiquing

  22. It is always very difficult to curtail such leakages because there are definitely some OP/ Security officers who may have a preference for HH or indeed any opposition leader. This has been been happening since the inception of multi partism in Zambia.

    KK clamped down on that by creating a one party state meaning loyalty went to no one except him. Any other loyalty would go the frog.

    You can only clamp down information leakage in a socialist state like Russia where rule of law is in the hands of a few privileged individuals.

    SATA had all the information at his finger tips, because of the very sympathisers who act as informers.

  23. Nakchinda is just a spokesperson for a finished political party which has gone into bed with the Panga Family. HH as an opposition leader, has the right to keep the ruing Government on its toes through such statements, even late Cobra(MHRIEP) used to make similar statements when MMD was in power. MMD and that fake Pastor should concentrate on sorting out their internal issues otherwise even Muliokela will get more votes than them in2016. next election.

  24. Do we still MMD mwebantu!All I’m seeing are PF cadres like NEVERS MUMBA pretending to be MMD.Even President Lungu thanked NEVERS for campaigning for him,though the CHARACTER was behaving as if he was campaigning for himself.This is what poverty can do.This NEVERS chap is funny,he has never worked before,the only job he has done is a 5month work as VP but he goes to chief justice and declares assets worth 36m(36b).In future,they should be verifying these declarations because I know NEVERS did not tell the truth.He lives off MMD,now that he is not preaching.

  25. @mushota. Ba educated Dr.Mushota, who should ignore here ?is it us readers or mr.Nakacinda or HH ot maybe LT ?this is pure grade seven english.

  26. FIRST LUNGU & KALABA FOR SNEAKING OUT OF THE COUNTRY TO MEET MUGABE WITHOUT THE PERMI SSION OF THE THEN ACTING PRESIDENT GUY SCOT. LUNGU SHOULD THANK GUY SCOT…IT IS NEVER TOO LATE.

  27. HH HAS SAID HE NEVER WENT OT SOUTH AFRICA DURING THE CAMPAIGN PERIOD. BUT HE WAS SEEN AT OR TAMBO COMING BACK WITH REAUEST MUNTANGA.

    THE PROBLEM HH HAS IS HIS MONEY IS TALKING TO HIM TO COMPROMISE THE INTELLIGENCE WINGS.

    EL MUST NOT LAUGH THIS OFF. MY SUGGESTION IS THE ENGIRE OP SHOULD BE OVERHAULED AND HEADS SHOULD ROLL. THIS IS EXTREMELY SERIOUS.

  28. Zambians you are all mediocre.So blind. That’s why Lungu dribbled his way past all of you into State House. You are busy castigating HH for telling you that there is a leak in the red brick. HH is doing it for all of you. In any political intrigue its necessary. It’s called preemptive stratagem. Those that play serious chess and are critical thinkers will understand where I’m coming from. HH has played the first move on the board. The next move is Lungus….and it better be a good move.

  29. SIKAS KWIK, What are you insinuating? that mediocrity continues in the name of cheap opposition? Giving careless statements and pronouncements? That we raise heroes out of impairment? Cant you see beyond the nose here? whether politiquing or not we all need to be responsible.

  30. So then what report should carry the title ‘state secret’…..one meant for the republican president, the others are just reports……these days its easy to create reports especially if the president is too predictable…….HH is smart….

  31. HH, he has a democratic right to say whatsoever, he wants!Nakanchinde, just concentrate to your broken party, with no life. PF, thinks when they are planning bad things for UPND, it’s right in their eyes, no way. Us its our one and only HH.

  32. Bushe “Nakacinda” kamwanakashi kalya…??…What do you know about these matters, stick to your bootlicking and MMD squabbles…The late (My bonafide PF President- MCS -MHSRIP) used to get same intelligent reports in the same way and usually knew what RB was planning even before RB got OP reports…and Sata boasted more deeply about it…So what has changed…? So iwe Nakunyenga Nakacinda, find a life,than to leak people’s boots for free. For your own info, defense chiefs-military, national service, police, OP, name them, they have preferences of their own too! So stop cheating yourselves about divided loyalty…They are sworn it yes and awe allegiance to the appointing organ of government, but they are not immune to preferences.

  33. Welcome to post Soviet Union Russia, where anything, yes, you heard me right,anything you want can be bought, just like that…(clicking my fingers and logging off…Enjoy the weekend guys!!!>>

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  34. UPND has over dramatized and politicized this funeral of their colleague. They have made it difficult for other people to be part of funeral otherwise would be violence and confusion. Hope they have realized this act of retrogressiveness.

  35. ichilema is seeking attention in the nation. He thinks when the cops lands on him the entire country would come to a stand still. He will be surprised to learn that business will be usaul as though nothin has happened. People are no longer in sympathy mood , politics will resume next year.

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